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John Coltrane's Tone Circle

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166 points jim-jim-jim | 6 comments | 03 Sep 25 12:38 UTC | HN request time: 0.02s | source | bottom
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pessimizer ◴[03 Sep 25 16:12 UTC] No.45117446[source]▶
Nothing upper-middle class people love more than worshiping dead black Americans, while treating their descendants like dangerous parasites. They were so cool, such genius! I can't wait to be the authority on them, and make more on redefining them than they ever saw in their lives, or to buy the new product that no black American makes a dime from.

One day, every black American will be gone, and all that will be left of them are statues that everybody holds in very high regard.

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1. rdtsc ◴[03 Sep 25 17:25 UTC] No.45118355[source]▶
> Nothing upper-middle class people love more than worshiping dead black Americans, while treating their descendants like dangerous parasites.

I know, right? It's those Dutch folks living in Bulgaria hating black American descendants again, eh? /s

So, to be serious, do you have evidence that Roelant Hollanderr is treating black American descendants as "dangerous parasites"? Those are pretty hefty accusations. I haven't found anything on their website, but I am sure you have some solid evidence somewhere.

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2. rectang ◴[03 Sep 25 17:35 UTC] No.45118463[source]▶
While the critique of this author seems unjustified, I think we do well to grapple with issues like this and not dismiss them outright. The problem is real, even if this may not be a good example.
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3. KerrAvon ◴[03 Sep 25 18:27 UTC] No.45118960[source]▶
Grapple with what, though? Abstract Whitey loves Coltrane and Satchmo and hates every Black person born since? It's not a coherent theory to begin with.

Also, if the current regime is in a position to fully eradicate all the blacks and browns, the statues will all be of Confederate generals and Trump family members, not black people.

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4. rectang ◴[03 Sep 25 18:41 UTC] No.45119097{3}[source]▶
Financial exploitation of oppressed culture by the dominant culture. Fetishization of minority figures as exotic and mystical. Crowding out minority voices when establishing critical narratives around minority art and culture.

These sorts of things happen in music industry, music criticism and music journalism. As I said, I don't think this is a good example, but as someone who has benefited greatly from Black American culture, I see bearing these issues in mind as one way to pay back my benefactors.

5. jacquesm ◴[03 Sep 25 19:40 UTC] No.45119663[source]▶
Not to detract from your point but he's been back in NL for a while I believe.
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6. rdtsc ◴[04 Sep 25 05:46 UTC] No.45123957[source]▶
Good point, he does say he moved back in 2020 and I missed that.