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    ZpJuUuNaQ5 ◴[] No.45117752[source]
    I am sure Zed is great and I appreciate the effort put in to create it, but nowadays I just cannot imagine switching from VSCode to something else. In my limited understanding, none of the existing alternatives offer anything (and often misses at least something) truly innovative or anything else that VSCode extension wouldn't solve. On VSCode I have about 15 different profiles setup, each with different settings and dozens of extensions based on either a technology stack or a project - it would be really difficult to find a good reason to throw it all away. The idea of switching between IDEs does not appeal to me either. I do use Neovim a little bit too, but most of that usage time was spent on configuration.
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    1. mikeocool ◴[] No.45117909[source]
    Zed's main selling point over VSCode for me is the lack of a slight delay between when I press a key and when the character appears.

    VSCode has always felt ever so slightly sluggish to me, and I find it maddening as I type.

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    2. pmg101 ◴[] No.45118076[source]
    So glad to hear I'm not alone! I continue to use SublimeText for this reason. Yet it doesn't seem to bother others.
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    3. IshKebab ◴[] No.45118181[source]
    Weird, I tried it recently and found it actually a bit laggier than VSCode. The rendering is much worse quality too.

    Are you using Vim mode or something like that?

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    4. diabllicseagull ◴[] No.45118203[source]
    vscode started to intermittently freeze my whole desktop on arch linux recently. I rage deleted it. imho, it’s a valid compromise to choose a snappy lightweight editor over vscode with all available extensions.

    sadly it reminds me of how visual studio used to be and and how much of a sluggish mess it is today. I don’t think the community can fix it either. it’s an uphill battle when MS is known to lose care as soon as they reach a critical mass of users.

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    5. zorked ◴[] No.45118283[source]
    VS Code is sluggish for me as well and crashes. I have minimal expansions, this is just a poor excuse for a lousy editor. Zed is much better, neovim is much better. My only real concern with Zed is what bait-and-switch is awaiting for us when they decide to make money. But it's a fantastic editor, no question about that.
    6. jkkola ◴[] No.45118306[source]
    This is why I cannot switch to neovim despite my attempts. I love the workflow, but the delay is too noticeable for me, and nothing helps. It's not a long delay, but long enough for me to feel like I have to wait for hours compared to Zed.
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    7. WD-42 ◴[] No.45118345[source]
    I think a lot of people forget how long ago Electron/Atom were released, and the subsequent Cambrian explosion of Electron based apps and editors like VSCode. There's probably a huge amount of developers that haven't used anything else.
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    8. mikeocool ◴[] No.45118381[source]
    I begrudgingly gave up vim mode in vscode a few years ago, because that seemed to make it so much more sluggish.
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    9. pkorzeniewski ◴[] No.45118940[source]
    Same here, still using Sublime Text due to its general snappiness, but can't wait for Zed to be released on Windows, it feels like a modern successor to ST that just keeps getting better.
    10. veber-alex ◴[] No.45118957[source]
    Strange.

    I just opened the same project in Cursor and Zed and started typing around, and I can't tell any difference. I am usually very sensitive to this stuff; for example, I can detect when my Mac drops below 20% battery because ProMotion is disabled and the screen refresh rate drops to 60Hz.

    11. RussianCow ◴[] No.45120205{3}[source]
    Ironically, I used JetBrains products for years before switching to VS Code because the latter felt so much faster. So it definitely depends on what you're used to.

    Zed feels significantly faster than VS Code, but it also doesn't feel as polished and "complete" as an IDE, so I'm going to stick to VS Code for now for the same reason I stuck to JetBrains IDEs for so long.

    12. IshKebab ◴[] No.45120618{3}[source]
    Yeah it hooks into some blocking event that gets called on every keypress. At least that's how it worked last time I tried it many years ago. Very sluggish.

    Fortunately standard editing shortcuts like Ctrl-D, Ctrl-left/right, etc. replace 99% of Vim "magic" and are way easier to remember and use.

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    13. Fraterkes ◴[] No.45121004{4}[source]
    No offense, but if you think ctrl-shortcuts are easier to use you don’t really get the appeal of vim
    14. throwaway314234 ◴[] No.45125741[source]
    May be Helix editor will be fast enough? In my opinion it feels considerably faster then vim with addons