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spicyusername ◴[] No.45114584[source]
I guess we're just going to be in the age of this conversation topic until everyone gets tired of talking about it.

Every one of these discussions boils down to the following:

- LLMs are not good at writing code on their own unless it's extremely simple or boilerplate

- LLMs can be good at helping you debug existing code

- LLMs can be good at brainstorming solutions to new problems

- The code that is written by LLMs always needs to be heavily monitored for correctness, style, and design, and then typically edited down, often to at least half its original size

- LLMs utility is high enough that it is now going to be a standard tool in the toolbox of every software engineer, but it is definitely not replacing anyone at current capability.

- New software engineers are going to suffer the most because they know how to edit the responses the least, but this was true when they wrote their own code with stack overflow.

- At senior level, sometimes using LLMs is going to save you a ton of time and sometimes it's going to waste your time. Net-net, it's probably positive, but there are definitely some horrible days where you spend too long going back and forth, when you should have just tried to solve the problem yourself.

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automatic6131 ◴[] No.45116622[source]
>- LLMs utility is high enough that it is now going to be a standard tool in the toolbox of every software engineer, but it is definitely not replacing anyone at current capability.

Right! Problem, billions of dollars have been poured into this wrt to infrastructure, datacenters, compute and salaries. LLMs need to be at the level of replacing vast swathes of us to be worth it. LLMs are not going to be doing that.

This is a collosal malinvestment.

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1. utyop22 ◴[] No.45116996[source]
Yeah eventually reality and fantasy have to converge.

Nobody knows when. But it will. TBH the biggest danger is that all the hopes and dreams aren't materialised and the appetite for high-risk investments dissipates.

We've had this period in which you can be money losing and its OK. But I believe we have passed the peak on that - and this is destined to blow up.