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arowthway ◴[] No.45113659[source]
This is super cool but the ending is bizarre.

> A comment on the YouTube video below complained, “Not a word about return on investment in the presentation. That means it’ll never pay off” MAGAlomaniacs are everywhere these days.

Given the supposed 50+ year lifespan of such a battery, I find it hard to believe it doesn't turn a profit at some point. And I understand that debunking low-effort accusations is asymmetric warfare. But why cite a random YouTube comment if you have no intention of addressing its claims? A more charitable interpretation is that it's meant to ragebait the readers. But to me, it seems like trying to make people feel ashamed for having doubts, by making a public example of a skeptic.

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jagermo ◴[] No.45115789[source]
I find it fascinating that renewables always have to have a ROI.

nobody cares about his car loosing value as soon as you drive off the parking lot. Or any other appliance - a fridge will never have a ROI, a washing machine will not and neither will a stove, a macbook or a fancy smart home system. They are part of our live, loose value and we accept that.

But solar or batteries (granted, mostly with home-solutions)? Better make money, otherwise why even bother.

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1. rogerrogerr ◴[] No.45115937[source]
ROI is implicitly against the alternative or status quo:

- Fridge: has ROI vs. going to the store more often or getting food poisoning.

- Washing machine: Has ROI measured in the value of your time spent not slapping clothes against a board to make them clean.

- Stove: ROI vs. using and maintaining a fire pit, with the risk of burning your house down factored in.

- MacBook: ROI is how much work you can get done vs. a Windows machine, or not having a laptop and doing math really fast by hand on paper.

Etc. It is suspicious that there isn’t a “this will pay for itself in N years vs. not having it” statement somewhere.