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arowthway ◴[] No.45113659[source]
This is super cool but the ending is bizarre.

> A comment on the YouTube video below complained, “Not a word about return on investment in the presentation. That means it’ll never pay off” MAGAlomaniacs are everywhere these days.

Given the supposed 50+ year lifespan of such a battery, I find it hard to believe it doesn't turn a profit at some point. And I understand that debunking low-effort accusations is asymmetric warfare. But why cite a random YouTube comment if you have no intention of addressing its claims? A more charitable interpretation is that it's meant to ragebait the readers. But to me, it seems like trying to make people feel ashamed for having doubts, by making a public example of a skeptic.

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skrebbel ◴[] No.45114465[source]
Does anyone understand why people do this? I mean, really why? It's similar to eg climate protestors quoting all kinds of outrageously incorrect statistics as fact, or saying that $TECH can supply "4% of all households" with electricity, fully knowing that households only consume a tiny % of total energy, and so on.

I simply don't get it! The political landscape across the west is that there's swaths of people who've simply stopped believing mainstream media when they're reporting things, and somehow our reaction is to just lie even more? Try to out-lie camp Trump? I mean I don't think it's even possible to lie more than Trump so wouldn't the honest, nuanced truth be a a much better antidote than global left's current strategy of "also lie, but a bit less"?

I simply don't understand where it comes from. Like in what bizarro world is this shit a smart strategy? Is it all just incompetence?

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zahlman ◴[] No.45114660[source]
It has nothing to do with political partisanship (except to the extent that false-flagging happens or that powerful individuals have bad ideas about how to propagandize for their cause). Most people are just terrible at critical thinking, and most of the interesting claims (especially statistical ones) are simply not verifiable by random individuals.

Plenty of leftists have their own reasons to distrust media. But scarcely anyone imagines reasons why someone else would lose trust. Not that they could do anything about it anyway.

The "global left" is not a real thing. I mean, of course you can draw lines around groups any way you like, but this one doesn't offer meaningful insight.

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1. skrebbel ◴[] No.45115054[source]
Appreciate your response. I think I agree with all of it, great points.