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Finnish City Inaugurates 1 MW/100 MWh Sand Battery

(cleantechnica.com)
190 points erwinmatijsen | 7 comments | 03 Sep 25 06:00 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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arowthway ◴[03 Sep 25 09:02 UTC] No.45113659[source]▶
This is super cool but the ending is bizarre.

> A comment on the YouTube video below complained, “Not a word about return on investment in the presentation. That means it’ll never pay off” MAGAlomaniacs are everywhere these days.

Given the supposed 50+ year lifespan of such a battery, I find it hard to believe it doesn't turn a profit at some point. And I understand that debunking low-effort accusations is asymmetric warfare. But why cite a random YouTube comment if you have no intention of addressing its claims? A more charitable interpretation is that it's meant to ragebait the readers. But to me, it seems like trying to make people feel ashamed for having doubts, by making a public example of a skeptic.

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1. echelon_musk ◴[03 Sep 25 12:06 UTC] No.45114754[source]▶
What does MAGA have to do with Finland?
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2. conception ◴[03 Sep 25 12:42 UTC] No.45115037[source]▶
Authoritarian populism support is rising globally.
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3. y-curious ◴[03 Sep 25 12:51 UTC] No.45115106[source]▶
Unfortunately, people seem to see Boogeymen everywhere when they're terminally online. It's kind of like the mid-2010s where everything someone didn't like was "fascist" or "Nazi"
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4. garciasn ◴[03 Sep 25 13:33 UTC] No.45115596[source]▶
Populist strongmen are rising everywhere; this is a fact. The People have short memories and seemingly have forgotten those who rose to power in the first half of the 20th Century and whom the Americans fought against for the remainder of it.

Apparently now it's time for the world to return to populist authoritarianism and isolationist policy in order to bury our heads in the...sand...until we have to collectively rise against them again. Except, this time, it may be America who bears the brutal brunt.

5. bslaq ◴[03 Sep 25 16:14 UTC] No.45117491[source]▶
Posting a comment doubting the ROI of a public investment is not “authoritarian populism”. If anything, democracy needs more of it.
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6. Rebelgecko ◴[03 Sep 25 16:54 UTC] No.45118018{3}[source]▶
The problem is when it's based on bullshit, like the secretary of energy's recent claims that completely covering the earth in solar panels wouldn't be enough energy for our needs. Like his hypothetical Dyson sphere of solar panels, a lie on Twitter can make it around the world before the truth can catch up.
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7. bslaq ◴[03 Sep 25 17:39 UTC] No.45118495{4}[source]▶
The problem is this is Finland and whatever the secretary of energy of the USA says is completely irrelevant.