←back to thread

190 points erwinmatijsen | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
dzhiurgis ◴[] No.45113497[source]
Wonder if one could use staggered heatpumps here - in summer there's quite a bit of heat out there (some of which needs to be removed) so you could get 3-6x more bang for your buck.
replies(1): >>45113905 #
1. grues-dinner ◴[] No.45113905[source]
Staggering heatpumps doesn't help except on a practical level, like how climbing a staircase in big or small steps is the same. The only thing that matters to overall efficiency limits is the temperature delta.

The coefficient of performance for a heat pump from with cold/hot of 10C/40C is about 10 - this is ballpark where a domestic heating heat pump sits - this is why a heat pump house needs to be well-insulated to work - the heating loop isn't actually hot-hot like with a boiler). From 10C to 500C, it's 1.5. That's 9/0.5 = 18 times less advantage.

At any delta, you can eke out a bit of advantage as COP is always over one, but at some point overheads in the system start to overwhelm your theoretical advantage and you might as well keep it simple and use a cheap and reliable resistor to heat things for dead-cert COP of 1.

You could use a heat pump with a higher COP if you have a really gigantic tank that you only heat to about 40-50C, but obviously the thermal transfer from that is pretty bad and getting it where it needs to go while still being hot enough to be useful is a problem.