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U.S. Emissions Rise 4.2%, China's Fall 2.7%

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196 points triceratops | 1 comments | 02 Sep 25 20:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.206s | source
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gorwell ◴[02 Sep 25 20:42 UTC] No.45108774[source]▶
Misleading due to missing context.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-...

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ceejayoz ◴[02 Sep 25 20:52 UTC] No.45108889[source]▶
Pot, meet kettle. Now do it per-capita.
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lucb1e ◴[02 Sep 25 20:53 UTC] No.45108903[source]▶
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

Sadly shows China going up, sharply until 2011, then more modestly. The latest 2023 data shows 8t/capita where the EU average is about 6 (not every EU country is rich, but sounds like that ought to be enough for a decent lifestyle) and US 14

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ceejayoz ◴[02 Sep 25 20:58 UTC] No.45108960[source]▶
> Sadly shows China going up, sharply until 2011, then more modestly.

And how does their current value compare to the US?

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vondur ◴[02 Sep 25 21:02 UTC] No.45109009[source]▶
Looks like the US is decreasing from the chart.
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ceejayoz ◴[02 Sep 25 21:03 UTC] No.45109017[source]▶
That's non-responsive to the question (and the article headline implies that's not even the case this year).

Which country currently produces more emissions per capita?

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1. krrrh ◴[03 Sep 25 00:37 UTC] No.45110943[source]▶
Canada. But there aren't that many of us, and the absolute number and political units also matter if you care about warming as a practical problem. There are two interesting things about per capita CO2eq in this graph.

1. China is still trending up and the US is still trending down. It's dangerous to make straight-line projections but they are on trend to meet at some point.

2. The US per capita emissions appear to be on a steady downward trend since 1850. This is even more obvious if you discount the anomalous periods of the civil war and the Great Depression. You have to admit, that's something that demands unpacking.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/s4fy286y7gwpqgmeltark/Screens...

Edit: Looks like Mongolia, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE have the honour of being at the top actually. Might not be a comprehensive list.