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Show HN: Amber – better Beeper, a modern all-in-one messenger

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68 points DmitryDolgopolo | 1 comments | 02 Sep 25 18:48 UTC | HN request time: 0.451s | source

Hi HN! Excited to share early access to Amber.

I’ve tried every all-in-one messenger out there (Beeper included) but they always fell short. No real folders, no AI, clunky UI, no CRM features… As a founder who speaks with hundreds of people every quarter, I needed something better. So I decided to rebuild the entire experience from ground up.

Thoughts from one of our users: "The app I've been searching for for a looong time."

Check it out for free today!

Demo: https://www.loom.com/share/8b5bc80b9893436b9190ae41fc3f0f50

Features: - All messages (Whatsapp, Telegram, iMessage) unified in a beautifully crafted interface. - Split inboxes (folders) to effortlessly focus on work, friends, a particular project.. whatever matters the most right now. - Mark read – no read receipts (even on Whatsapp and Telegram), mark done only when you’re done. - Personal CRM: a lightweight private database of knowledge about each person with (optional) AI pulling important facts straight from conversations. (the latter is coming soon) - Command bar + shortcuts. - Send later + reminders.

Everything is securely stored on-device. All messages are end-to-end encrypted and go straight from your device to the network of choice – never touching our servers.

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devilkin ◴[02 Sep 25 19:24 UTC] No.45107823[source]▶
Before I would even consider something like this:

* Where's your privacy policy?

* What/how are you handling the different customer protection laws? What juristictions are you working in? Where's the data hosted?

* Where's the design description?

* What encryption are you actually using? If you rolled your own, then well.. good luck.

* How could you ensure end-to-end encryption over multiple protocols, without either completely reverse engineering said protocols? If your answer here would be that you're using a central server where messages get passed between services (and thus decrypted), it isn't end-to-end.

The site is also very flaky. Sometimes it loads, sometimes it doesn't. There are so many questions, and zero answers.

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DmitryDolgopolo ◴[02 Sep 25 19:30 UTC] No.45107911[source]▶
- Yep. You can read our privacy policy here: https://dimadolgopolovn.notion.site/Amber-Privacy-Policy-256... - Check out the demo in the original post. - We use native API or reverse-engineer a solution depending on the platform. This approach maintains the security standard as high as the original app. Everything is done locally on your computer.
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devilkin ◴[02 Sep 25 19:32 UTC] No.45107931[source]▶
At that point calling it end-to-end encrypted is not true.
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1. j4hdufd8 ◴[02 Sep 25 19:44 UTC] No.45108090[source]▶
Can you elaborate where you think it stops being encrypted?