←back to thread

Next.js is infuriating

(blog.meca.sh)
1033 points Bogdanp | 2 comments | 02 Sep 25 06:57 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
pjmlp ◴[02 Sep 25 08:25 UTC] No.45100415[source]▶
I don't get these kind of complaints, coming from Java and .NET web frameworks, Next,js is the only sane frontend framework followed by Angular.

Saying this as someone doing Web related development since 1998, glory days of Perl and CGIs.

replies(3): >>45100468 #>>45100541 #>>45101200 #
Etheryte ◴[02 Sep 25 08:33 UTC] No.45100468[source]▶
I don't think the post is an unreasonable complaint. The fact that you have to even think about how to get logs out of your application is insane, never mind all the hoops you need here. Logging should be a first class citizen in anything that goes to production.
replies(1): >>45100741 #
pjmlp ◴[02 Sep 25 09:19 UTC] No.45100741[source]▶
Interesting, because that is hardly so in most frameworks, logging requires additional libraries and configuration almost everywhere.
replies(1): >>45102727 #
Etheryte ◴[02 Sep 25 13:15 UTC] No.45102727[source]▶
In most languages and frameworks logging is as simple as import, initialize, done. Here it's far from it.
replies(1): >>45102756 #
pjmlp ◴[02 Sep 25 13:18 UTC] No.45102756[source]▶
Really, which ones?

Because anything Java, .NET and Python, it certainly requires configuration and related infrastructure.

replies(2): >>45102988 #>>45107264 #
1. Summershard ◴[02 Sep 25 18:40 UTC] No.45107264{4}[source]▶
> .NET

I think you haven't used .NET in a while. Nowadays, logging is absurdly easy to configure. Heck, you usually don't even need to configure it, because the basics are already included in most templates. You just use the Logger class and it works.

The only time you have to spend more than 30 minutes on it is when you use some external logging libraries. And most of them are quite sane and simple to use, because it's so easy to create a custom logging provider.

replies(1): >>45113150 #
2. pjmlp ◴[03 Sep 25 07:24 UTC] No.45113150[source]▶
I use it almost every day.

Java, .NET and nodejs are all over the place around here.

The point was without configuration.

Logger class doesn't do the work for production monitoring, without additional configuration so that its output appears on the necessary production dashboards.