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Americans Lose Faith That Hard Work Leads to Economic Gains, WSJ-NORC Poll Finds

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191 points impish9208 | 2 comments | 02 Sep 25 15:07 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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orochimaaru ◴[02 Sep 25 15:41 UTC] No.45104568[source]▶
Isn’t this a bit obvious? I mean I’ve known this since I started working in 1997. The first job you have generally shatters this illusion that job security and economic gains are tied to “hard work”.

In the sense hard work is needed but only if you see if adding to what you consider a quality of life (which could be economic gain, generational wealth, bragging rights to a promotion, etc.). Each person has their criteria.

If you work in corporate America, hard work isn’t going to save you from layoffs or get you a bigger bonus unless that work is tied to making someone high up in your reporting chain look really good.

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1. _DeadFred_ ◴[02 Sep 25 16:56 UTC] No.45105748[source]▶
The current American system is premised on people buying into this. If people don't there is no societal foundation which probably leads to societal change. It's like the one societal contract we have (had). Not society helps you, not society puts a roof on your head. Not we're in a society together, so when you get sick we help out. Purely just 'if you work hard, you will be rewarded, and the rewards will take care of the things our social model doesn't'.
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2. Yizahi ◴[03 Sep 25 10:07 UTC] No.45114032[source]▶
To show that this isn't exclusive to USA - I heard that in Japan nowadays workers can't rely on their megacorp to provide them predictable work position and can be fired regardless of their tenure. This is all after being told for decades that megacorp is literally their family and they should dedicate their whole time to it.