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owlbite ◴[] No.45083253[source]
So how many gates are we talking to factor some "cryptographically useful" number? Is there some pathway that makes quantum computers useful this century?
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Strilanc ◴[] No.45085735[source]
> So how many gates are we talking to factor some "cryptographically useful" number?

Table 5 of [1] estimates 7 billion Toffoli gates to factor 2048 bit RSA integers.

> Is there some pathway that makes quantum computers useful this century?

The pathway to doing billions of gates is quantum error correction. [1] estimates distance 25 surface codes would be sufficient for those 7 billion gates (given the physical assumptions it lists). This amplifies the qubit count from 1400 logical qubits to a million physical noisy qubits.

Samuel Jacques had a pretty good talk at PQCrypto this year, and he speculates about timelines in it [2].

(I'm the author of this blog post and of [1].)

[1]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2505.15917

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJxENYdsB6c

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1. DebtDeflation ◴[] No.45101520[source]
Since most QC researchers are saying that the real use cases are not Shor's or Grover's but rather molecular simulation (calculating ground state energies), do we have a timeline for doing anything useful in this space with quantum computers? A quick Googling indicates it take about 12 logical qubits to simulate extremely simple molecules like LiH and H4. Does the qubit requirement just scale linearly with the total number of electrons or is there an exponential function in there somewhere? I'm trying to get a sense of whetherf material science and biological applications are similarly 30+ years out or might come substantially sooner.
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2. EvgeniyZh ◴[] No.45135379[source]
The real limit for quantum chemistry in NISQ is the circuit volume, since it requires O(N^4) gates.