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zmmmmm ◴[] No.45088995[source]
> In this context this would mean having the ability and documentation to build or install alternative operating systems on this hardware

It doesn't work. Everything from banks to Netflix and others are slowly edging out anything where they can't fully verify the chain of control to an entity they can have a legal or contractual relationship with. To be clear, this is fundamental, not incidental. You can't run your own operating system because it's not in Netflix's financial interest for you to do so. Or your banks, or your government. They all benefit from you not having control, so you can't.

This is why it's so important to defend the real principles here not just the technical artefacts of them. Netflix shouldn't be able to insist on a particular type of DRM for me to receive their service. Governments shouldn't be able to prevent me from end to end encrypting things. I should be able to opt into all this if I want more security, but it can't be mandatory. However all of these things are not technical, they are principles and rights that we have to argue for.

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fastaguy88 ◴[] No.45089202[source]
Really not a libertarian, but why shouldn’t Netflix have the right to choose who they distribute content to? They negotiated conditions with the creators, why shouldn’t they be able to specify the DRM? No one is forcing you to subscribe to Netflix. Or even to buy an iPad.
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ranyume ◴[] No.45089227[source]
>why shouldn’t Netflix have the right to choose who they distribute content to?

power asymmetry

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zeroCalories ◴[] No.45089281[source]
TBH I don't care if Netflix wants to abuse such an asymmetry. I don't need Netflix in my life, so I'll just cancel my subscription(already have). I honestly don't want my lawmakers to spend even a second thinking about Netflix when we have so many large issues in the world right now. If we were talking about something like financial services where I have to engage I would be more sympathetic.
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MangoToupe ◴[] No.45089301{3}[source]
Capital doesn't really care what you want, it will exert control regardless. So in this case Netflix will continue to be part of capital that normalizes the need for DRM to access videos, write IP law, and generally force you into either accepting the world they want or forcing you to become a hermit.

Edit: i mean to say this is true whether or not you've even heard of the company.

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zeroCalories ◴[] No.45089442{4}[source]
Well then I will get mad when that actually happens. Until then don't care.
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MangoToupe ◴[] No.45090023{5}[source]
Which part of what I said do you think hasn't already happened and metastasized?
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1. zeroCalories ◴[] No.45100128{6}[source]
> Capital doesn't really care what you want, it will exert control regardless.

Working as intended. The market doesn't care what capital wants either.

> So in this case Netflix will continue to be part of capital that normalizes the need for DRM to access videos

I can access video without DRM. If you want to access Netflix's service that's on you.

> write IP law

Netflix does not write IP law, our politicians do. Vote better.

> generally force you into either accepting the world they want or forcing you to become a hermit.

I don't accept their world, and I'm not a hermit.