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1. devjab ◴[] No.45099398[source]
This is not related to the story as such, but I live in Aarhus and this is the first I hear about it. I read three national news outlets and one specific to my local region of Østjylland a couple of times a day. I wonder if I should swap some of them. I know about black trashbags being thrown out of a window in the white house and then I find an actually interesting non-tech story about something happening right outside my house here on HN...
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2. bjarneh ◴[] No.45099632[source]
Seems that we focus on all the crazy stuff Trump is doing, just like we did the last time he was president, depressing stuff. All of it.
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3. fifilura ◴[] No.45099688[source]
No, I don't think there is a reason to switch.

This is not exactly news for people living in this area, you would have learned it at school.

There is a vast area between Denmark and UK called Doggerland where fishermen constantly being up mamooth tusks and stone age artifacts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

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4. AlecSchueler ◴[] No.45099753[source]
Sadly he's one of the most powerful people in the world and we can't ignore the crazy stuff he does.
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5. lenkite ◴[] No.45099754[source]
US political news has infected the entire world now sadly, esp after Global Trump Tariffs. Its like he wanted to make sure the whole world talks about him...
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6. thaumasiotes ◴[] No.45099808[source]
> This is not related to the story as such, but I live in Aarhus and this is the first I hear about it. I read three national news outlets and one specific to my local region of Østjylland a couple of times a day. I wonder if I should swap some of them.

Something that's stuck with me is the time I walked into my local bookstore and found banners advertising that a new book by Orson Scott Card was already out and available for sale then and there.

Pretty much any other type of product (that I might buy) would have managed to publicize this to me well in advance of the day you could purchase the product.

To your question, I think the types of content delivered by the publishers you read are unlikely to change, and if you want to start hearing about new types of things, you'll need to find sources that cover them.

7. thaumasiotes ◴[] No.45099817{3}[source]
Is one of those ideas connected to the other one? Historically, being one of the most powerful people in the world is not even a minor barrier to most people ignoring the things you do, crazy or otherwise.
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8. card_zero ◴[] No.45099874{4}[source]
Historically there was no journalism and everybody ignored everything that was happening. Or do you mean in more modern history?
9. fosterbuster ◴[] No.45099962[source]
Doggerland is on the other side of Jutland. Aarhus is east.

Anecdotally I was not tought about Doggerland, and I don’t think it’s common knowledge.

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10. KingOfCoders ◴[] No.45099975[source]
US culture imperialism.
11. tangwwwei ◴[] No.45100060[source]
wat do u think could be particular about the state of journalism in Aarhus or Denmark that could've caused this? i sometimes learn of interesting news about my country from external sources too that gets drowned out by more petty concerns in the social media news cycle
12. adornKey ◴[] No.45100067[source]
I've sometimes witnessed newsworthy events. It was very interesting to see what media made out of it. Local news was very inaccurate. In Big papers the stories were more like fiction - using some fact from the real event as inspiration. It was surprising that local papers can't even get simple local news right. Only once I think the local paper got into a little bit of trouble. They wrote some nagging critic about the performance of some school theatre - but the event had been cancelled...

I think it is safe to say that using newspapers to wrap some garbage is where their real value shines. Reading the garbage wrap is something that people do, but I wonder why?

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13. Someone ◴[] No.45100217[source]
Archaeologists tend to keep such expeditions fairly hush-hush until they’re done with their research. If they don’t, they run the risk of treasure hunters ploughing through their find, destroying information, at night.

So, the villagers likely knew there were people working on the beach, but may not have known they were archeologists or that they found a Stone Age settlement.

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14. simonh ◴[] No.45100495[source]
This settlement is out at sea, about 8m underwater.
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15. wafflemaker ◴[] No.45100529[source]
The truth is also that there are more noteworthy this happening in the world now. Previous world order has fallen.* New one is being formed. And Trump is kind of in the midst of it as the leader of the ex-hegemon country.

There will be much happening for the next decade or two. New wars, new alliances. Countries agreeing (or disagreeing) on new influence zones.

*The old hegemon (the country that leads the world and calls all the shots) has no power anymore to influence countries to do their bidding. Look at how Putin makes fun of Trump, playing a delay game, while he is trying to slowly win the war he lost (by not winning it in 3 days).

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16. wafflemaker ◴[] No.45100596[source]
There is this astroturf new news outlet in Poland called Infopiguła. I follow that, 9 minutes per day and that's it for politician news for me. I just ignore anything else, politicial or world, knowing I'll find out about it anyway if it's important.

But you can also just cut out news completely. There are edutainment channels on YouTube you could follow instead. You have hacker news. I watch other sources, just not "newsy" news.

There is one VERY IMPORTANT rule for choosing channels/podcasts/content to watch. I only watch people presenting with positive energy, in a calm manner. "Scary" way of presenting, or clickbaity titles give more followers, but I feel bad from watching them. Just like when I'm low I sometimes play an audiobook read by Eckhart Tolle. I wonder why it makes such a difference?

17. globnomulous ◴[] No.45100622[source]
Not exactly related to the story or to your comment, but: is Aarhus as happy and wonderful a place as all writing about it claims it is? I know immigrating to Denmark is nearly impossible, but I keep telling my partner that if (or when) the political situation in the US deteriorates sufficiently, Aarhus should be our destination -- that or Copenhagen.
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18. 42lux ◴[] No.45100797{3}[source]
That makes it harder to protect against treasure hunters not easier.
19. AlecSchueler ◴[] No.45100893{4}[source]
Well yes, historically most people ignored most things, but it's 2025 now.
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20. messe ◴[] No.45100995[source]
I've lived in Aarhus for the past two and a half years, and can say that it is quite a nice city to live in. Very walkable, decent public transport (despite how much locals love to complain about it), plenty of restaurants, bars and other entertainment. I'd definitely recommend it.

Moving here was quite a bit easier for me though, as I'm an EU citizen.

21. Someone ◴[] No.45101173{3}[source]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37997640:

“Three Dutch World War Two ships considered war graves have vanished from the bottom of the Java Sea, the Dutch defence ministry says.

[…]

A report in the Guardian says three British ships have disappeared as well.

[…]

the three missing wrecks were located 100km (60 miles) off the coast of Indonesia, at a depth of 70m”

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22. diggan ◴[] No.45101262[source]
> US political news has infected the entire world now sadly

I'm not sure if it's just because of the two countries where I grew up (Sweden) and live now (Spain), but news here seems to have always been infected by US politics, for as long as I can remember. I remember being like 9 years old and the adults around the living-room table making drunk jokes about how dumb Georgie boy was for invading Afghanistan for example...

23. WalterBright ◴[] No.45101581{4}[source]
I never understood the war graves thing. On land, people go to great effort to recover the bodies and re-inter them in proper graves. In the sea, they get designated as graves and nothing can be salvaged.
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24. bazoom42 ◴[] No.45101733[source]
You probably shouldnt expect the regular news media to cover ongoing archeological research unless there is some sensational find (like a viking ship in Havana).

But if you are interested in such research (and read Danish) I can recommend the magazine Skalk (skalk.dk).

25. beowulfey ◴[] No.45102163{3}[source]
I don't think most people realize just how much of ancient civilization is now under water. The oceans rose 120 meters since 10,000 years ago.

I've always dreamed of making a tool to help visualize this. It would likely be very dramatic.

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26. gosub100 ◴[] No.45102377[source]
I saw (what turned out to be) this story in my android news feed but didn't click on it because the title was too heavily clickbaited.
27. gadders ◴[] No.45102466{4}[source]
Current global warming prediction that I could find was 10m by 2300 if the ice shelves melt.
28. mrangle ◴[] No.45102497{3}[source]
The USA is far and away the hegemon country. Pointing out verbiage from nuclear powers doesn't change that.
29. tokai ◴[] No.45102525[source]
The researchers and their work with underwater archeology has been covered extensively in Danish media. I'll bet you will see Danish media cover this project at the end of the year when the project is finished and results are finalized.

You are overreacting.

30. ceejayoz ◴[] No.45102593{5}[source]
> On land, people go to great effort to recover the bodies and re-inter them in proper graves.

There aren't many spots on land a body can wind up that are comparable in difficulty to access as thousands of feet underwater.

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31. mitjam ◴[] No.45102692{4}[source]
Kids in Germany learn about the evolution of the Baltic Sea, it is hard to believe how different the whole area was like during and after the last ice age: https://www.geomar.de/en/discover/the-origin-of-the-baltic-s...
32. sehansen ◴[] No.45102895[source]
Immigrating to Denmark is actually pretty easy if you have the right kind of education or get offered a job with a high enough (~$65000) pay. See the "Pay Limit schemes" and "Positive Lists" on this page: https://nyidanmark.dk/en-GB/You-want-to-apply/Work

And as a reference, $65000 would be considered a preposterously low salary for a new STEM graduate in Denmark.

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33. wizzwizz4 ◴[] No.45103325{5}[source]
We can ignore everything that doesn't affect the way we act. Sure, you need to be informed enough to go "okay, I'm going to join La Résistance" when necessary, but other than that, you only need to focus on things in your sphere.
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34. declan_roberts ◴[] No.45103412[source]
lol I hear you about the stories on Trump saturating all news. For 4 years it's all in going to be able to read here. It's like crack cocaine to US reporters. They won't be able to help themselves.

Will have to dig deep for interesting, non-Trump related US news.

35. Workaccount2 ◴[] No.45104052[source]
Few things bother me more than the fact that most media nowadays (left and right) is simply profiteering on half-true/false narratives meant mostly to make people hate each other.

If you are someone who has stepped back and realized this, good for you.

36. AlecSchueler ◴[] No.45104274{6}[source]
I would hope that a hundred thousand or so people might be encouraged to act differently at the voting booth next time around...
37. WalterBright ◴[] No.45104828{6}[source]
I know. But for those that can do salvage, what's the problem?
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38. globnomulous ◴[] No.45106060{3}[source]
Oh, interesting, I like those odds! Thanks for the correction!
39. ceejayoz ◴[] No.45106222{7}[source]
You'd have the same problem if you tried to salvage topsoil from a cemetery.
40. AlecSchueler ◴[] No.45112955{6}[source]
And to add to that, I'm hoping that people here in my country and elsewhere can learn lessons needed to avoid falling into the same traps.
41. xoober ◴[] No.45117139{3}[source]
Much evidence of hunter gather population for tens of thousands of years before the arrival of "civilization", by boat, after it was submerged.
42. xoober ◴[] No.45117167{3}[source]
See the sea level, glacial extent and temperature in the days of Doggerland in this interactive map... https://icemap.rhewlif.xyz/
43. devjab ◴[] No.45117188[source]
I like Aarhus but I'm not sure what they say about it. I was born and raised here, then at 19 I moved to Aalborg. A few years later I changed university and moved to Odense (they are the 3rd and 4th largest cites). I've spent a lot of time in Copenhagen over the years, both for work and in my private life. I don't think there is too much difference between Odense or Aarhus, I didn't like Aalborg as much but it's been 20+ years since I lived there. What I miss most about Odense (aside from house prices) is that it's closer to Copenhagen, but my now wife lived in Aarhus when we met, and I found a job here easily so...

Anyway, I think the biggest difference is between Copenhagen and the rest of our cities. Copenhagen is different in that it has a lot more going on in terms of basically everything. I'm personally happy I'm not raising children in Copenhagen, mostly because of the cost of living.

We're just 5.5 million people though, so it's not like there is that much of a difference between places. When I say that I miss being closer to Copenhagen, we're talking 1,5 hours closer... It still only takes 3 hours from here.

If you work in IT like I do, Aarhus is a little more boring than both Copenhagen and Odense. Odense has a lot of IoT and robotics going on, and Copenhagen has everything. In the Aarhus area you'll probably want to work with C#, PHP, Java, Typescript or Python and Azure + general Microsoft products if you're going to work in tech.

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44. globnomulous ◴[] No.45139767{3}[source]
Thank you so much for this. I'm already planning to visit Aarhus and Copenhagen at some point in the near future. I'll add Odense to the itinerary!