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AnEro ◴[] No.45093447[source]
I really hope this stays up, despite the politics involvement to a degree. I think this is a situation that is a perfect example of how AI hallucinations/lack of accuracy could significantly impact our lives going forward. A very nuanced and serious topic with lots of back and forth being distilled down to headlines by any source, it is a terrifying reality. Especially if we aren't able to communicate how these tools work to the public. (if they even will care to learn it) At least when humans did this they knew at some level at least they skimmed the information on the person/topic.
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1. fsckboy ◴[] No.45097171[source]
>a perfect example of how AI hallucinations/lack of accuracy could significantly impact our lives going forward.

how about stop forming judgments of people based on their stance on Israel/Hamas, and stop hanging around people who do, and you'll be fine. if somebody misstates your opinion, it won't matter.

probably you'll have to drop bluesky and parts of HN (like this political discussion that you urge be left up) but that's necessary because all legitimate opinions about Israel/Hamas are very misinformed/cherry picked, and AI is just flipping a coin which is just as good as an illegitimate opinion.

(if anybody would like to convince me that they are well informed on these topics, i'm all ears, but doing it here is imho a bad idea so it's on you if you try)

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2. slg ◴[] No.45097350[source]
>because all legitimate opinions about Israel/Hamas are very misinformed/cherry picked

Sure, there is plenty of misinformation being thrown in multiple different directions, but if you think literally "all legitimate opinions" are "misinformed/cherry picked", then odds are you are just looking at the issue through your own misinformed frame of reference.

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3. pimlottc ◴[] No.45097356[source]
This has very little to do with Israel/Hamas. It could be false information about a lewd act, a violent crime, a racist comment, an affair, gross incompetence, a medical condition, religious blasphemy, etc, etc, etc.

People make judgments about people based on second hand information. That is just how people work.

4. fsckboy ◴[] No.45097399[source]
>but if you think literally "all legitimate opinions" are "misinformed/cherry picked", then odds are

yes, i literally do think that, so there are no odds.

i think i am well informed on the related subjects to the extent that whatever point someone might want to make i'll probably have a counterpoint

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5. Aeolun ◴[] No.45097546[source]
> how about stop forming judgments of people based on their stance on Israel/Hamas

I really don’t need to do much more than compare ‘number of children killed’ between Israel and Palestine to see who is on the right side of history here. I’ll absolutely form judgements of people based on how they feel about that.

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7. dotancohen ◴[] No.45097670[source]
I hope that you also consider "how many shelters" each side builds for its civilians. And "how many children are used as human shields" as well.
8. dotancohen ◴[] No.45097687{3}[source]
Whenever someone asks my opinion on something related to the conflict in the holy land, I ask them if they want the anti-Jewish answer, the anti-Muslim answer, the pro-Jewish answer, of the pro-Muslim answer.

And it took me decades of studying this to determine what to call the two sides.

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9. dmurray ◴[] No.45100093{4}[source]
I also like "the Holy land" as a less political name for that region.

It's out of fashion and perhaps identified with Christianity, and some people think I'm being tongue-in-cheek or gently trolling by using it. But IMO it's neutral and unambiguous: that's a part of the world that is sacred to all the major religions of the Western hemisphere, while not being tied to any particular set of boundaries.

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10. dotancohen ◴[] No.45101226{5}[source]
I don't know about the Druze, but the Muslims and the Jews also use the term The Holy Land.