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Thoughts on (Amazonian) leadership

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155 points stock_toaster | 5 comments | 01 Sep 25 18:56 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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mikert89 ◴[01 Sep 25 20:17 UTC] No.45096252[source]▶
Amazon is a far cry from the glory days of the past. 80% of corporate workers are visa workers that spend all of their time managing and maintaining the massive complexity inside the company. There is no leadership principles, its just low level grinding.

There was a time when employees, even line managers and senior engineers, had massive scope and built state of the art systems

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la64710 ◴[01 Sep 25 20:48 UTC] No.45096473[source]▶
That’s bullshit … just another scaremongering post against employees with some kind of visa. Leadership depends upon individuals not upon their immigration status. From direct experience I can say there are leaders and non leaders on bothe sides. BTW ec2 was first conceived and made in South Africa.
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1. bendbro ◴[01 Sep 25 21:27 UTC] No.45096777[source]▶
H1Bs risk deportation when they are fired. It is inconceivable for this to not impact their performance and behavior. Combine that with Amazon's Jack Welch style stack rank and firing of the bottom and it becomes even worse
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2. la64710 ◴[02 Sep 25 01:17 UTC] No.45098128[source]▶
Amazon has big enough global footprint of offices all over the world that even if someone loses their visa they can easily relocate back to their own country and work on the same projects from any of the massive offices there. And this actually happens all the time. Folks in Amazon move around as needed across border. The idea of h1-b servitude does not hold much relevance for companies like Amazon who have built massive offshore centers in the last few years.
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3. Supermancho ◴[02 Sep 25 01:57 UTC] No.45098331[source]▶
> Amazon has big enough global footprint of offices all over the world that even if someone loses their visa they can easily relocate back to their own country and work on the same projects from any of the massive offices there

Do you have any evidence that this has ever happened? It's a big company so I assume it's something that's demonstrable. I happen to think that it's unlikely that Amazon leadership would adapt by making allowance, rather than replace.

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4. senderista ◴[02 Sep 25 03:55 UTC] No.45098984{3}[source]▶
This is BS since “return to hub” was decreed.
5. sumedh ◴[02 Sep 25 08:50 UTC] No.45100555[source]▶
> they can easily relocate back to their own country

Many visa workers have families, and relocating an entire household, especially when children are involved is a huge emotional and logistical challenge.

Its not easy