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wolvesechoes ◴[] No.45090564[source]
In my country two groups most hated by educated, civilized and self-labeled liberal people are miners and farmers. There are good reasons to not like them, especially miners (they have lot of privilege and cost a lot of money, whereas our (coal) mining industry is useless), but I came to the conclusion that the actual reason behind the hate is the fact that those two groups are able to force government to do their will, even though they are a small minority in the overall population. They achieve this by blocking streets, burning tires and causing overall mayhem, and are very consistent about it. At the same time those educated, civilized and liberal people can helplessly complain between each other, and maybe write some hateful article in the newspaper.

Forgive me this seemingly unrelated introduction, but when I read such threads I don't have much hope something will change, for similar reasons. People that care about computer user's freedom and agency will write blog posts and create hundreds of comments about how things should look like, how government and corporations want to enslave them etc. And then do nothing to give those adversaries even a smallest inconvenience. Some will create a new "privacy-oriented" and "freedom-focused" project on GitHub, naively thinking it will solve problem that is not technical at all.

Those without power always become victims. If it is all bark but no bite, no one is going to back down.

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Turlututu ◴[] No.45090611[source]
Have you heard about transversality of the fight? Do you have common ground with those farmers and coal miners? Do they have some with you. They are humans, after all. They feel and fear and hope.

I come from a place famous for social unrest. A successful protest is one uniting the student to the truckers, to the miner to the teachers.

Punching up. Not sideways or down. Their is a greater enemy than the farmers.

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1. wolvesechoes ◴[] No.45094459[source]
But I have nothing against miners or farmers, I just diagnosed why they are so resented - they succeed.