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Trade in War

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rho4 ◴[] No.45090791[source]
I for example do not understand how it can be possible that Ukraine transports Russian gas on its pipeline network. Not sure if that's still the case though.
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contrarian1234 ◴[] No.45090995[source]
Nor do I understand how Europe still buys gas from Russia.. in effect funding and prolonging the war. They seem to be playing both sides. Saying how horrible the Russian regime is, while directly giving it more money. And then giving weapons to Ukraine..

It seems completely morally bankrupt... If instead of Russia it was ISIS, would they still send money just so they have cheap gas? Like at what point would they stop? Do the Russians need to be impaling babies and goosestepping through Red Square?

I also don't understand why Ukrainians don't feel a deep sense of betrayal about this

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maccard ◴[] No.45091026[source]
> Nor do I understand how Europe still buys gas from Russia

Because the alternative isn't buying gas from somewhere else, it's not buying the gas. This turns a foreign war into a major major domestic issue.

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firesteelrain ◴[] No.45091103[source]
Can’t they just increase their imports from the US?
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poszlem ◴[] No.45091126[source]
They can and they already do, LNG from the US is flowing in. But swapping dependence on Russia for dependence on the US isn’t the clearcut win people imagine. Washington is in the middle of its own trade war, and Europe is one of the targets. Pax Americana is over, and Europe is treated less as an ally than as a vassal. The US openly exploits Europe’s fear of Russia, turning a legitimate threat into a lever for domination. What Europe gets is dependency and vulnerability, while the US extracts obedience and profit.

The irony is that the US slaps higher tariffs on most European countries than it does on Russia itself. As the old saying goes, "it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal".

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