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We should have the ability to run any code we want on hardware we own

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2071 points K0nserv | 4 comments | 31 Aug 25 21:46 UTC | HN request time: 1.142s | source
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daft_pink ◴[01 Sep 25 01:01 UTC] No.45088470[source]▶
There’s something weird about it. My phone needs to be hyper secure, and a lot of companies went to monetize that and introduce insecurities with their software.

That’s why I love my iPhone, but I’m not super happy about what happens with my Mac.

There’s something in the reality that it’s the app developers not the user that are being restricted by Apple. Apple keeps the app developers from doing things I don’t like for the most part. I don’t feel very restricted.

But I don’t want my computer to become a walled garden. It’s only OK for my phone.

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1. Aachen ◴[01 Sep 25 07:42 UTC] No.45090454[source]▶
> There’s something in the reality that it’s the app developers not the user that are being restricted by Apple.

Reading this comment as a user and developer in one person, it's so weird to see this disjointed picture of developers and users. You should have rights and feel unrestricted as a user but I shouldn't? Have you considered that being a developer is about the same as being a writer instead of a reader? We're the same...

> I don’t want my computer to become a walled garden

Why not? I don't think I can articulate an answer to the "I don't feel restricted" remark earlier better than you can probably do yourself by seeking what it is that rebels against these walls

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2. daft_pink ◴[01 Sep 25 15:43 UTC] No.45093649[source]▶
The fact that I go to McDonald’s and they play a recording every time asking me for an app code. Or I go to Petsmart and they give me all kinds of discounts for installing their app. Or Reddit barely works unless you install their stupid app. There is clearly some invasive behavior happening with apps on phones that doesn’t seem to happen on computers the companies are so insanely motivated to get you to install their freaking app

The difference is I bought the device so I don’t care if you feel restricted as a developer. I’m just saying as a user I feel protected by having someone review the apps that are going on my phone and denying ones they feel suck.

I’m also a developer however I don’t write phone apps

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3. Aachen ◴[01 Sep 25 18:44 UTC] No.45095431[source]▶
> The difference is I bought the device so I don’t care if you feel restricted as a developer.

I don't see how that logically follows. I bought my device, too. How does that consequence developer-me not being allowed to make software?

If you think I'm behind one of these obnoxious corporations, no sir the 180° opposite. I haven't made a mobile app in my life that I haven't also published the source code of, nor made a dime off of them, salaried or otherwise. Desktop or mobile is all the same ethos, if I'm reading correctly that you seem to expect the worst just because I code things up for my own device and whoever else wants to use it?

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4. daft_pink ◴[02 Sep 25 02:29 UTC] No.45098509{3}[source]▶
I’ve installed Xcode. Pretty sure you can write anything and install it on your own device, the restrictions are on distribution.