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Nursie ◴[] No.45088504[source]
I want my less tech savvy family members to be able to buy locked-to-the-company-store hardware, that they can’t run other things on, as it protects them from one avenue of scams and hacks. This protection can and will be worked around if it can be easily disabled.

Fully open phone systems consistently fail to sell enough to make a difference, which is a bit of a shame, but honestly at this point the market has spoken.

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1. greatgib ◴[] No.45090401[source]
Nothing prevents that the device is locked by you instead of the "store" or even that the device has a "safe" mode that has to be explicitly disabled by the user in a non obvious way like connecting the device to a computer and running a command or so.

The only important thing is for the bank, Netflix and co to not be able to discriminate. But again nothing would provide the bank to offer a setting for the user to restrict where it can use it's banking app if it was not discriminatory. But we know well where this goes, in the end if you don't enable it

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2. Nursie ◴[] No.45091605[source]
I think the bank should be able to discriminate, they should be allowed to say they only work on locked devices, surely.

It’s a security measure, particularly as we place more responsibility on banks to prevent their customers being defrauded.

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3. const_cast ◴[] No.45095032[source]
You must allow your government issued brain chip in order to have money. But don't worry citizen - you have the choice. You can always choose to never have money.

How will we use the brain chip? Citizen, for your security, you must not ever see the brain chip software. You must trust it is perfectly secure and will not be used for nefarious reasons.

All citizens who deny the brain chip, please board the train to your designated shanty town.

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4. Nursie ◴[] No.45101890{3}[source]
This is just facile and childish.
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5. const_cast ◴[] No.45102674{4}[source]
No, you just don't like it and don't have an argument against it so you resort to "nuh uh!!"

Which would be very effective... If we were 8 years old and on the playground.

Requiring government approved devices and government approved access to the internet is an authoritarian recipe for disaster.

The fact people as naive as you exist to not see that is legitimately mind-blowing.