←back to thread

134 points christhecaribou | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
kelseyfrog ◴[] No.45084668[source]
Companies have no morals. They only respond to profit.

Abolish the overtime exemption for computer systems analysts, computer programmers, and software engineers. Make it unprofitable to extract labor until someone dies. All other actions are impotent.

replies(6): >>45084812 #>>45084999 #>>45085066 #>>45085549 #>>45089828 #>>45094416 #
martin-t ◴[] No.45085066[source]
How about instead abolishing privately owned companies?

Most western countries are democracies because people got fed up of being exploited by dictators (sometimes called "kings"), removed them and setup a system in which they elect who makes the decisions. This system has issues but is less bad than dictatorship.

Yet, companies kept their hierarchical power structures.

Workers should decide who makes the decisions. If they don't wanna invest time into selling their product, they hire a salesman. If they want somebody to make long term projections, plan what gets worked on and communicates with other teams, they hire an assistant. And they decide how much he gets paid according to how much value he actually brings them.

Managers should be assistants.

replies(10): >>45085193 #>>45085236 #>>45085253 #>>45085260 #>>45085268 #>>45085325 #>>45085353 #>>45085377 #>>45086366 #>>45090290 #
1. AngryData ◴[] No.45090290[source]
I agree, but the problem is that is actually socialism by definition and as soon as people hear the word socialism or communism they freak the fuck out because capital owners has made people believe that socialism or communism is the end-times and all will starve and die under a dictatorship. Yeah it doesn't really make sense that worker owned and/or controlled and straight up dictatorship control are mutually exclusive, but you aren't going to have too great of luck convincing people that they, and likely most of their family and friends, were completely duped for the last 90+ years and completely bought into the lie.

All that said, co-op businesses have seen slow but steady growth for decades now.