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idle_zealot ◴[] No.45088298[source]
This makes the point that the real battle we should be fighting is not for control of Android/iOS, but the ability to run other operating systems on phones. That would be great, but as the author acknowledges, building those alternatives is basically impossible. Even assuming that building a solid alternative is feasible, though, I don't think their point stands. Generally I'm not keen on legislatively forcing a developer to alter their software, but let's be real: Google and Apple have more power than most nations. I'm all for mandating that they change their code to be less user-hostile, for the same reason I prefer democracy to autocracy. Any party with power enough to impact millions of lives needs to be accountable to those it affects. I don't see the point of distinguishing between government and private corporation when that corporation is on the same scale of power and influence.
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1vuio0pswjnm7 ◴[] No.45088812[source]
"This makes the point that the real battle we should be fighting is not for control of Android/iOS, but the ability to run other operating systems on phones."

Sometimes owner control, cf. corporate control, can be had by sacrificing hardware functionality, i.e., features, closed source drivers. Choice between particular hardware feature(s) working and control over the hardware in general.

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1. colordrops ◴[] No.45089157[source]
Yes but in the phone space the sacrifice is too much. You often times forgo the ability to even participate in many aspects of society, e.g. banking. It's not your typical "rough around the edges open source alternative", it's just not even a comparison.
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2. yardstick ◴[] No.45089664[source]
Can’t you do banking on the web via your phone? Same as desktop users?
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3. okasaki ◴[] No.45090999[source]
I heard some banks don't have web sites, only apps.
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4. yardstick ◴[] No.45091072{3}[source]
Sounds like they are outliers. None of my banks are like this. Multiple countries and continents.
5. IIsi50MHz ◴[] No.45139552[source]
In some places, the bank website directs you to use the app, which then looks for things like whether the device is unlocked or rooted. Banks in these places refuse to trust web browsers.