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idle_zealot ◴[] No.45088298[source]
This makes the point that the real battle we should be fighting is not for control of Android/iOS, but the ability to run other operating systems on phones. That would be great, but as the author acknowledges, building those alternatives is basically impossible. Even assuming that building a solid alternative is feasible, though, I don't think their point stands. Generally I'm not keen on legislatively forcing a developer to alter their software, but let's be real: Google and Apple have more power than most nations. I'm all for mandating that they change their code to be less user-hostile, for the same reason I prefer democracy to autocracy. Any party with power enough to impact millions of lives needs to be accountable to those it affects. I don't see the point of distinguishing between government and private corporation when that corporation is on the same scale of power and influence.
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makeitdouble ◴[] No.45089073[source]
> Google and Apple have more power than most nations.

To push further, Google and Apple have basically as much power as the US.

The UK going after Apple, only to get rebutted by the US is the most simple instance of it. International treaties pushed by the US strongly protecting it's top corporations is the more standard behavior.

Any entity fighting the duopoly is effectively getting into a fight with the US.

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1. throwaway31131 ◴[] No.45089142[source]
> To push further, Google and Apple have basically as much power as the US.

If this is true then why is Tim Cook visiting Trump? Shouldn’t it be the other way around.

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2. makeitdouble ◴[] No.45089343[source]
The power dynamic between the gifter and the giftee isn't that simple. Even bribes dynamics will change a lot depending on who does it and to which amount.

There is a whole antropologic field around that, but to keep it short, if you pay your palace and all expenses with the money funneled to you as gifts, you're not the one in control.

Fun read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy

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4. argomo ◴[] No.45089805[source]
CGP Grey's "The Rules for Rulers" (on YouTube) may also be relevant here.
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5. xandrius ◴[] No.45092602[source]
How feeble they might be in today's political arena, optics are still important.
6. myroon5 ◴[] No.45098158{3}[source]
https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs