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m463 ◴[] No.45080628[source]
"sideloading" connotates something that is negative.

On systems before apple's locked-down iphone, it was just called "installing".

The PC revolution started with people just inserting their software into the comptuer and running it. You didn't have to ask the computer manufacturer or the OS vendor permission to do it.

And note that apple doesn't allow you to protect yourself. You cannot install a firewall and block arbitrary software on your phone. For example, you can not block apple telemetry.

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mystraline ◴[] No.45082687[source]
1. I buy computer hardware, like an iPhone

2. I try to install my own software.

3. I'm prevented in installing my software on my device without "permission" from manufacturer.

4. Therefore, I do not own said hardware; manufacturer still does.

5. Therefore this is a indefinite rental instead of a sale.

6. I was defrauded with a fake sale, and Apple is defrauding IRS by not being properly taxed over millions of rental units (phones, tablets)

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an0malous ◴[] No.45083098[source]
You can install your own OS on iPhone hardware, what you’re demanding is that Apple allow you to run your own software on their OS. It’s like saying that you don’t own your microwave or lawnmower unless they provide you with an API to build apps on it. Are you just renting your Xbox because you can’t run PlayStation games on it?
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Spivak ◴[] No.45083364{3}[source]
Well you can't run your own OS on iPhone hardware without jailbreaking but that's beside the point. You don't own your Xbox not because you can't run Playstation games on it but because the manufacturer put a digital lock on it they control which denies you the ability to run software they don't approve of on it.

I think we can do better than "well you own it because you're technically allowed to attempt to break the lock." We can demand that users be given ability to remove the lock.

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an0malous ◴[] No.45083696{4}[source]
I’m still not seeing the difference between an iPhone and Xbox. They’re both controlling what software you can run on their systems, why are people complaining about one but not the other?
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swiftcoder ◴[] No.45085049{5}[source]
I don’t where you’ve been the last couple of decades, but plenty of people complain about software restrictions on gaming consoles. There was a whole era when console games were even region-locked, and that fucking sucked…
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1. burnerthrow008 ◴[] No.45088789{6}[source]
Microsoft does not regularly make the front page of HN because they don’t allow side loading. Apple does.

It’s a disingenuous argument.