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Use One Big Server (2022)

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343 points antov825 | 3 comments | 31 Aug 25 17:29 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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talles ◴[31 Aug 25 18:06 UTC] No.45085392[source]▶
Don't forget the cost of managing your one big server and the risk of having such single point of failure.
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Puts ◴[31 Aug 25 18:20 UTC] No.45085534[source]▶
My experience after 20 years in the hosting industry is that customers in general have more downtime due to self-inflicted over-engineered replication, or split brain errors than actual hardware failures. One server is the simplest and most reliable setup, and if you have backup and automated provisioning you can just re-deploy your entire environment in less than the time it takes to debug a complex multi-server setup.

I'm not saying everybody should do this. There are of-course a lot of services that can't afford even a minute of downtime. But there is also a lot of companies that would benefit from a simpler setup.

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1. sgarland ◴[01 Sep 25 00:38 UTC] No.45088375[source]▶
Yep. I know people will say, “it’s just a homelab,” but hear me out: I’ve ran positively ancient Dell R620s in a Proxmox cluster for years. At least five. Other than moving them from TX to NC, the cluster has had 100% uptime. When I’ve needed to do maintenance, I drop one at a time, and it maintains quorum, as expected. I’ll reiterate that this is on circa-2012 hardware.

In all those years, I’ve had precisely one actual hardware failure: a PSU went out. They’re redundant, so nothing happened, and I replaced it.

Servers are remarkably resilient.

EDIT: 100% uptime modulo power failure. I have a rack UPS, and a generator, but once I discovered the hard way that the UPS batteries couldn’t hold a charge long enough to keep the rack up while I brought the generator online.

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2. whartung ◴[01 Sep 25 02:10 UTC] No.45088814[source]▶
Being as I love minor disaster anecdotes where doing all the "right things" seem to not make any difference :).

We had a rack in data center, and we wanted to put local UPS on critical machines in the rack.

But the data center went on and on about their awesome power grid (shared with a fire station, so no administrative power loss), on site generators, etc., and wouldn't let us.

Sure enough, one day the entire rack went dark.

It was the power strip on the data centers rack that failed. All the backups grids in the world can't get through a dead power strip.

(FYI, family member lost their home due to a power strip, so, again, anecdotally, if you have any older power strips (5-7+ years) sitting under your desk at home, you may want to consider swapping it out for a new one.)

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3. sgarland ◴[01 Sep 25 13:31 UTC] No.45092579[source]▶
For sure, things can and will go wrong. For critical services, I’d want to split them up into separate racks for precisely that reason.

Re: power strips, thanks for the reminder. I’m usually diligent about that, but forgot about one my wife uses. Replacement coming today.