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hu3 ◴[] No.45077689[source]
> In short, the modern PHP ecosystem gives us the best of both worlds: the ability to build quickly and confidently in PHP, while still having powerful options (C, Rust, Go) for performance-critical parts. This hybrid approach lets us stay productive without sacrificing speed where it matters most.

I understand this for a large codebase where rewriting is not feasible.

But if that wasn't the case, a C# APIs achieves both speed of development and execution in my experience. You'll rarely need to reach for C++ or Rust.

PHP is great but the language still doesn't allow things like typed arrays. It will happily accept string in a array of dates, for example.

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ThinkBeat ◴[] No.45077935[source]
Having been in the C# world for a long time, and the various web/api frameworks.

PHP is really nice if you dig into it, it includes so many great functions and functionality built in for creating web stuff.

It also has a number of issues,. but to quikly put something together PHP take the win in my limited opnion.

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reactordev ◴[] No.45078266[source]
The only reason PHP still exists is because of shared hosting companies and Wordpress.

PHP’s initial appeal was you could do scripting on the server side, “turn off PHP with a ?>” spit out normal html, and “turn back on PHP with a <?php”.

For a beginner programmer, it was simple, easy to understand, and had an include so your designs were’t nested table hairball messes of garbage. (but your CSS was definitely garbage).

Today, it’s so easy to run JavaScript, I can build a basic jsx site in under an hour, just like I can with PHP and includes. With Bun, I can quickly write a data access layer as well and wire up crud APIs w/ JWT auth. A weekend project in both.

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const_cast ◴[] No.45085822[source]
PHP has a much more competent type system than JS and is overall more ergonomic IMO.

Typescript exists, but if I'm compiling something I'm using a real language or framework like dotnet. There's no reason for me to use typescript and node and install 100 packages when I can just install dotnet.

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1. reactordev ◴[] No.45087498[source]
install dotnet, and install 100 packages for .net core, asp.net, identity, ef, etc. Don’t kid yourself.

While strongly typed languages are great. I like to be able to get things done. This is why I don’t C++ anymore. This is also why I don’t dotnet anymore. Too much BS with the type system and correctness and the Microsoft way or lack of support or rug pull. They lost me when they killed XNA.

Typescript is actually good, except for the fact that it’s a transpiler to JavaScript. That part sucks.

I want a C++, with Types, with memory safety, with garbage collection, with pointers, with a dev experience like dotnet, but we don’t have those things.

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2. const_cast ◴[] No.45093352[source]
dotnet is a batteries included framework... It has way more included than any other language, including JS and PHP.

> I want a C++, with Types, with memory safety, with garbage collection, with pointers, with a dev experience like dotnet, but we don’t have those things.

Dotnet, you want dotnet. Dotnet has all of those. Yes it has pointers.