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bambax ◴[] No.45081136[source]
One answer to this madness is to starve the beast: never buy any music or any content from an established company. Torrent everything. It may not work at all, but at least you can tell yourself you're not helping the bastards.
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rglullis ◴[] No.45081207[source]
Few people are buying anything in this world where streaming is the norm and the labels make money by cutting deals with the distribution platforms.

The solution for me, in this specific case, would be for Beato to act against YouTube and take his channel elsewhere. He has enough followers to be able to start his own Peertube server, find a few sponsors and keep going forever.

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0xDEAFBEAD ◴[] No.45082318[source]
What does Youtube have to do with it? This appears to be a story about Universal Music Group. Stop featuring their artists, and tell anyone on that label to move to a different label if they want to be featured on the channel.
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rglullis ◴[] No.45082547[source]
Who gets to "demonitize" the videos? YouTube.

Who gets to process the copyright strike and tell creators they need to remove the content in order to not have consequences? YouTube.

Who gets to close down the channel even before any lawsuit against a copyright allegation is conducted? YouTube.

Beato is fighting BMG because he sees YouTube as the hand that feeds him, but he could get rid of all the BMG annoyances if he was brave enough to own his distribution channel.

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0xDEAFBEAD ◴[] No.45082961[source]
Youtube has those policies in place in order to comply with copyright law, yes? In the long run, I would expect smaller platforms to adopt similar policies as they grow, in order to achieve compliance with copyright law.
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rglullis ◴[] No.45083298[source]
> Youtube has those policies in place in order to comply with copyright law

A lot of it is just CYA and enforcement theater. YouTube could pretty much have one dedicated account manager for someone with the subscriber count of Beato who would work as a first-line of defense against frivolous/bogus copyright claims.

> I would expect smaller platforms to adopt similar policies as they grow

But then the content creators who take ownership of their social media presence will by definition be a lot closer to those making these types of decisions, and they will be able to say "I don't think I am infringing on anything, if you really disagree you will have to go to court".

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1. 0xDEAFBEAD ◴[] No.45083803[source]
>YouTube could pretty much have one dedicated account manager for someone with the subscriber count of Beato who would work as a first-line of defense against frivolous/bogus copyright claims.

Are there any Youtube alternatives which actually do this, though?

I don't think it actually makes a difference whether Youtube hires the lawyer, or whether Beato hires the lawyer. It comes out of Youtube ad revenues either way. It's better for Beato to be the one to choose who he wants to represent him.

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2. rglullis ◴[] No.45084210[source]
Except that YouTube wouldn't have to hire a lawyer to do any of that. A single Jr account manager from Google should be able to have a dashboard that can reject/overrule bogus claims, and send an automatic response to the copyright trolls telling them where to go if they want to escalate this and get real lawyers involved.