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My Foray into Vlang

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DoctorOW ◴[] No.45081491[source]
When comparing V and Golang, I feel like V serves as a warning for why the Go maintainers say "No" so often. You can see the author being weirdly confused both by bugs and ambiguity in the language.

> This is a double-edged sword, with Go, you get what you got. With V, I got what I got but I wonder if what I got can be gotten differently.

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DoctorOW ◴[] No.45083055[source]
I realize you've replied to every comment in this thread that isn't explicitly praising V, I'd discourage that because a cookie cutter response doesn't fit well in a discussion. I'm well aware that when Go maintainers say "No" to features, that they're not shouting into the void, that there are people asking for those features. My argument was not based on popularity at all.
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1. baranul ◴[] No.45083157[source]
My comment was specific, backed up by evidence and statements from Golang developers, not a cookie cutter response. HN is arguably best served by fair and balanced views.

Speaking of fairness, Golang and other languages have lots of bugs and issues too. Furthermore, what you stated did not align with the overall sentiment expressed by the author of the article. He liked Vlang.

> "I like V a lot. The abstraction over the syntax is so nice that made me enjoy writing the syntax as a whole. It makes me wish that Go could do more with what they have, but you and I know that Go would never." -- Kris Tun

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2. mirashii ◴[] No.45083833[source]
Your comment is copy pasted from the same comment you’ve posted at least 2 other times in the last 24 hours. Thats very much cookie cutter. It’s also not all that relevant to the parent comment, it’s just trying to turn things into a flame war. The comment only expressed that golang’s simplicity has prevented some of the issues they perceive in V, and you’re trying to turn it into some Go vs V and dredging up a bunch of unrelated criticisms of go.

Not every thread needs to be this us vs them mentality with other languages that you bring to the thread.

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3. baranul ◴[] No.45086583[source]
> Your comment is copy pasted from the same comment you’ve posted

Please don't twist. The response given here were unique statements. It was not copy and pasted from anywhere else.

> When comparing V and Golang....

The original commentator started the comparison. Was just giving a response about that.

> why the Go maintainers say "No" so often

In the counter, showed that many Golang programmers disagreed with the direction or about the features of their language. In various cases, those programmers agreed with or admired the direction or features of Vlang. Additionally, the sentiment expressed by the writer of the article was not that he was against, but rather and overall, he liked Vlang.

People should be allowed to respectfully disagree and also not be forced to go along with any negative narratives. There should be room for different views about topics.

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4. Mawr ◴[] No.45089906{3}[source]
Since you insist on digging deeper, I'll point out some of your tricks.

> Many Golang programmers have heavily criticized or complained about their language

Meaningless statement, because it's true for every language.

> My comment was specific, backed up by evidence and statements from Golang developers, not a cookie cutter response.

You picked articles that support your point and conveniently omitted aritcles that don't. This is called cherry picking.

> Below are examples of fair and real reviewers:

Let me guess, if they share your opinions they are fair and real, but if they don't, they're "direct competitors of V, engaging in very dirty tactics".

> Speaking of fairness, Golang and other languages have lots of bugs and issues too.

I have issues with my finances and Mr. Bezos does too, therefore our issues are the same and equal. This is the Fallacy of Gray.

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Nobody here is going to fall for basic tricks like only linking to articles that speak positively of V and attempting to play the victim of "harassment" by "competitors" or whatnot. Step up your game ;)