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    Six months into tariffs, businesses have no idea how to price anything

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    462 points JumpCrisscross | 18 comments | 30 Aug 25 20:56 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
    1. BartjeD ◴[31 Aug 25 10:03 UTC] No.45081954[source]▶
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    2. polonbike ◴[31 Aug 25 10:24 UTC] No.45082044[source]▶
    My point of view , from Europe, is that political violence is already there in the US. As well as state violence (not just on political opponents, but also on all minorities and "people who have a different opinion"). The next step is indeed a second civil war, with 21st century characteristics (hybrid war, etc...) I am not enthusiastic about the near future for the US nor for the world.
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    3. enaaem ◴[31 Aug 25 10:49 UTC] No.45082161[source]▶
    Ironically, if a civil war was going to happen it will be because Trump's overuse of the military. It is such an newbie African dictator mistake. Every time you use the military to put down civil unrest you give them an inch of your power and before you know it, they figure they don't need the regime anymore.

    You will never see Putin outsourcing civilian tasks to the military.

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    5. jgilias ◴[31 Aug 25 12:11 UTC] No.45082572{3}[source]▶
    That’s whataboutism though
    6. tmountain ◴[31 Aug 25 12:13 UTC] No.45082582{3}[source]▶
    What children are being “gang raped”? Your comment reads like extremist rhetoric.
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    7. NegativeK ◴[31 Aug 25 12:22 UTC] No.45082635{3}[source]▶
    I'm fairly certain you've never lived in Chicago or spoken to the people in areas affected by gang violence.
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    8. peterpost2 ◴[31 Aug 25 12:27 UTC] No.45082661[source]▶
    If those things are true they all are seen small peanuts compared to the police state that is being developed in the U.S. with masked men pulling brown people of the street without identifying themselves and without due process.

    Get your priorities straight.

    To quote Niemöller:

        First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
         Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
    9. FridayoLeary ◴[31 Aug 25 12:28 UTC] No.45082673{4}[source]▶
    I fully understand your disbelief but that is actually what is going on. Thousands of children abused by gangs.
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    10. valar_m ◴[31 Aug 25 12:37 UTC] No.45082726[source]▶
    That seems extremely unlikely given the significant global economic impact of tariffs, and the comparatively microscopic effect of transgender athletic participation in the United States.

    For example, when Kentucky passed their trans sports ban in 2022, there was a grand total of one (1) transgender high school athlete in the state[0].

    I mean, it's almost laughable to suggest that any of those things are even near comparable to the potential long-term impact of historically unprecedented tariffs being thoughtlessly tossed around on a whim.

    [0] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trans-athlete-bans-fischer-we...

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    11. abrichr ◴[31 Aug 25 12:45 UTC] No.45082754{4}[source]▶
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
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    13. mothballed ◴[31 Aug 25 13:26 UTC] No.45083005{3}[source]▶
    They are related in the sense that stuff like violent crime by ethnic gangs and transgender affirmation of children easily rile up people to Trump or others who will bluntly oppose it, and then you end up with poorly designed tariffs.

    It was largely a failure of anti tariff other candidates to capture these other 'easy wins' needed to get to the point of implementing sane economic policy.

    14. tomhow ◴[31 Aug 25 13:34 UTC] No.45083054[source]▶
    Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

    Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

    15. r2_pilot ◴[31 Aug 25 13:44 UTC] No.45083108{5}[source]▶
    If you fully understand the disbelief, you'd understand why you, being the one advancing the claim, should provide the source(s) you are using for your Bayesian priors so that, assuming those information sources are of sufficient quality, we can also have the benefit of your knowledge. Until then, it is only rational that people reject your claim.
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    16. FridayoLeary ◴[31 Aug 25 16:35 UTC] No.45084508{6}[source]▶
    I'm not sure what all that sophistry is about seeing as this is easily available information that anyone can find out about with literally 2 seconds of googling. Anyway heres a report from the bbc https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2r2ejlvm1o .
    17. typeofhuman ◴[31 Aug 25 20:21 UTC] No.45086719{4}[source]▶
    You'd be wrong empirically but also wrong in how you came to a "fairly certain" conclusion with very little evidence.
    18. tomhow ◴[01 Sep 25 04:09 UTC] No.45089358[source]▶
    Please don't fulminate or post inflammatory comments about nations on HN.

    If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.