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k__ ◴[30 Aug 25 18:28 UTC] No.45076925[source]▶
Would it be considered haram even if you don't actually eat it?
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Vosporos ◴[30 Aug 25 18:48 UTC] No.45077043[source]▶
> He has only forbidden you ˹to eat˺ carrion, blood, swine[1], and what is slaughtered in the name of any other than Allah. But if someone is compelled by necessity—neither driven by desire nor exceeding immediate need—they will not be sinful. Surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

[1]: Eating pork is forbidden in the Old Testament in Leviticus 11:7-8 and Deuteronomy 14:8.

https://quran.com/2?startingVerse=173

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EA-3167 ◴[30 Aug 25 18:50 UTC] No.45077059[source]▶
On the Jewish side of things there's a principle called "Pikuach Nefesh" which essentially means that outside of extremes like murder, rape, and other violent crimes against others, you should do anything possible to preserve life. If you're an orthodox Jewish doctor on the Sabbath, and someone needs your skills to live, you're required to break the Sabbath and help.
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fsckboy ◴[30 Aug 25 19:04 UTC] No.45077152[source]▶
>if you're an orthodox Jewish doctor on the Sabbath, and someone needs your skills to live, you're required to break the Sabbath

are you therefore required to answer the phone, because who else would be calling on shabat?

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adriand ◴[30 Aug 25 23:01 UTC] No.45078757[source]▶
A friend of mine lives in Montreal where there is a large orthodox Jewish population and he told me he was out walking one day and a woman started calling to him from the door of her house and gesturing for him to come over. She explained to him that she needed his help: there was an urgent situation and she needed to make a phone call, but because it was the Sabbath, she was not able to. He made the call for her and went on his way.

I always thought these workarounds were odd - does God have no objection to using proxies to get around the rules? Then again, my friend is not Jewish, so perhaps he can freely break the Sabbath because he’s outside the scope of the rule? Or is damned anyway?

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1. cyberax ◴[31 Aug 25 06:10 UTC] No.45080774[source]▶
> I always thought these workarounds were odd - does God have no objection to using proxies to get around the rules?

Apparently, the consensus is that the God does not just approve of working around the rules, but actively _expects_ it. Otherwise the rules wouldn't have these loopholes, would they?

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2. stavros ◴[31 Aug 25 12:17 UTC] No.45082602[source]▶
My god, the mental gymnastics we do so we can continue to pretend comforting things are true...
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3. aziaziazi ◴[31 Aug 25 15:36 UTC] No.45084002[source]▶
That sounds profoundly ignorant of human’s customs and cultural usages. Using "we" shows the orator includes himself in the group but the surprised tone "my god" has a bitter taste of despise.

I’m not Jewish but it’s easy to see similar mental gymnastics on myself or around. Remarking it on others before myself would show a great lack of introspection. When someone is surprised, the wise thinking is to question his own beliefs before the object of his discovery.

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4. stavros ◴[31 Aug 25 15:45 UTC] No.45084072{3}[source]▶
Which of my beliefs am I meant to question? That maybe there does exist an all-poweful, all-knowing being to whom it is somehow important that humans do not perform specific menial tasks on specific days of the week, since a lot of people seem to believe this?
5. GoblinSlayer ◴[01 Sep 25 08:20 UTC] No.45090692[source]▶
Every tradition is spontaneous, thus idiosyncratic.