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breadwinner ◴[] No.45078577[source]
Trump is even using Tariff threats to strong-arm other countries to retreat on their climate goals [1]. If the Supreme Court agrees that the Trump can do this then that means we have a dictator — one that will do way more harm than the one in North Korea.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/climate/trump-internation...

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1. alex1138 ◴[] No.45078784[source]
How can you possibly do more harm than the one in NK, literally starving your population?
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2. breadwinner ◴[] No.45078835[source]
The one in NK is doing that only to his own country. Trump is destroying the whole planet by withdrawing from the Paris agreement and then by strong-arming other countries to do the same. If we haven't already passed the tipping point Trump's actions will make sure we do, destroying all hope.
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3. FridayoLeary ◴[] No.45078877[source]
Also trumps a fascist and NK is communist so the logic is inconsistent.
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4. vkou ◴[] No.45079335[source]
Nobody outside of SK, NK, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Of The People's Republic of China seriously two figs about anything that happens in NK.

The country could get hit by a meteor tomorrow, and nobody else would notice.

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5. alex1138 ◴[] No.45079572[source]
I give two figs about it, the guy should be arrested
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7. ronsor ◴[] No.45080082[source]
No one cares about "fascism" or "communism"; these labels distract from the root of the problem: authoritarianism. Mind you, without excessive power and authority, neither hardcore fascists nor hardcore communists can do that much.
8. AngryData ◴[] No.45080679[source]
So NK workers own or control the means of production?
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9. FridayoLeary ◴[] No.45081751{3}[source]
That's not communism. They are all oppressed, impoverished and dehumanised by the mechanism of the state. Like China and the Soviet union.
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10. const_cast ◴[] No.45084408{4}[source]
You can't just redefine communism to mean "bad thing" and then say "see? Communism bad!"

Communism has a real definition. NK is not communist. China is not communist either.

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11. FridayoLeary ◴[] No.45084549{5}[source]
At this stage communism has been tried and failed so many times that it's silly to conclude that it isn't inherently evil. It's just hubris to think you could do it better yourself.
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12. const_cast ◴[] No.45084564{6}[source]
This is a different belief.

You can believe communism is evil. You can't believe communism is evil because you just attribute everything evil to communism.

That's just bad reasoning. Like, really really bad reasoning. Like, I think most small children have higher reasoning capabilities than that.

13. EasyMark ◴[] No.45088025[source]
Bah, India and China are pumping out way more pollutants than the USA. If you're going to bring the USA up, bring them all up. They all need to get their act together. Europe to a lesser extent but at least they're trying.
14. triceratops ◴[] No.45094099{6}[source]
There are many bad systems that fail and cause misery and poverty. Communism is one of them but there are others.