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Are we decentralized yet?

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487 points Bogdanp | 3 comments | 30 Aug 25 19:26 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jchw ◴[30 Aug 25 20:27 UTC] No.45077739[source]▶
I think this compares AT proto PDSes to Fediverse instances. In many ways this actually underplays just how grossly centralized AT proto currently is, since some of the components are 100% centralized still. (Whereas Fediverse instances, all downsides considered, are at least self-contained fully-independent instances.)
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edavis ◴[30 Aug 25 20:32 UTC] No.45077763[source]▶
Which components are you referring to?
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jchw ◴[30 Aug 25 20:41 UTC] No.45077826[source]▶
In case of Bluesky, there will also only ever be a single instance of the App View. As far as I am aware though in practice there's really only the official relay or indexing services either.
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skybrian ◴[30 Aug 25 20:45 UTC] No.45077855[source]▶
Why can't someone run another App View?
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1. throawayonthe ◴[30 Aug 25 21:20 UTC] No.45078116[source]▶
there is https://deer.social
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2. danabramov ◴[30 Aug 25 21:42 UTC] No.45078242[source]▶
This one isn't an AppView (it's a frontend for Bluesky's). However, https://blacksky.community/ and https://zeppelin.social/ are full AppViews.
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3. danabramov ◴[31 Aug 25 10:19 UTC] No.45082019[source]▶
Correction: Only https://zeppelin.social is. Blacksky runs a PDS and a Relay but not an AppView. My apologies.