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86 points bookofjoe | 10 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
1. conorh ◴[] No.45077738[source]
It is a very interesting article, but I'm a little horrified at the amount of effort going into military projects to kill more efficiently.
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2. Animats ◴[] No.45078560[source]
"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."
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3. XorNot ◴[] No.45078862[source]
Yeah you might want to take a look at what's happening in Europe then. Because your options are "have an effective conventional military force, ideally enough to deter an invasion" and "have nuclear weapons and threaten Armageddon at the smallest of provocations" (which was correctly identified as impractical during the Cold War: would the US trade the Eastern Seaboard to protect Berlin? Fairly obviously no...)
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4. spookie ◴[] No.45080925[source]
Humans never learn, there will always be some crazy moron controlling some country.
5. ares623 ◴[] No.45081595{3}[source]
Or coming soon to a “protest” near you
6. theyinwhy ◴[] No.45082597[source]
Europe has nuclear arsenal so I really don't get your point.
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7. TiredOfLife ◴[] No.45082711[source]
Tell that to russia
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10. rramadass ◴[] No.45089630[source]
Oh Man; You need to shake off your naivete asap!

Our entire Social/Economic/Psychological value system has been completely remade to value only Money and Power. Humanity/Ethics/Morals/Community/Individuals are only useful in so far as they sustain the system in pursuit of the above objectives else they are all just a hindrance and must be manipulated/overlooked/removed.

Our very mastery of Science and its consequent Technology has enabled the exercise of all "our" (i.e. Individuals/Groups/Corporations/Governments/etc.) powers in service of Money/Power to a degree unimaginable before the Scientific Revolution. Nothing matters but only the sustaining of "The System" which has taken a life of its own independent of the Humans (and other life forms) who inhabit it.

To explain using pop-culture references, you are mere disposable "Soylent Green" in "The Matrix" all of which are embedded in omniscient "The System".

References:

1) Notes on Nationalism by George Orwell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_Nationalism

2) Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control by Kathleen Taylor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing:_The_Science_of_T...

3) Reflexive Control - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexive_control

4) Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes by Jacques Ellul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda:_The_Formation_of_M...

5) The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Technological_Society