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shubhamjain ◴[] No.45075187[source]
"This tool 10x the productivity of software engineers"

"GREAT! That means we can fire the people who do the actual work, and replace them with MBA robots, who neither understand nor care about making a good product"

Pardon my pessimism, but in my whole career, I have never met a PM who actual did the work of driving the product vision. Most were just middlemen shuttling information between management, marketing, design, and engineering. Thinking that hiring more PMs would increase the output in the age of AI is such a childish fantasy.

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dcreater ◴[] No.45075471[source]
The PM discipline has unfortunately maldeveloped as a place for souless MBAs, engineering degree holders who dont want to be engineers or both. Actual Product people are a small minority

Its a tragedy as its undervalued - I firmly believe apples products are significantly worse if their engineers led it. Jobs made those products

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jayd16 ◴[] No.45075626[source]
Even the nomenclature is malevolently vague. PM conflates product management with project management and they are not the same.
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1. dataflow ◴[] No.45075639{3}[source]
Don't forget program management.