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bgwalter ◴[] No.45075094[source]
I wonder what his colleague Knuth at Stanford says about commercially driven hype like:

"AI has made coding the easy part."

"Things that used to take six engineers three months to build, "my friends and I, we'll just build on a weekend," Ng said.

The man has a complete disdain for the field and for the thousands of open source developers whose code he is using in laundered form.

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1. brookst ◴[] No.45075128[source]
Good thing those open source developers learned their craft in isolated rooms, never seeing anyone else’s code.

All of culture and technology builds be accreting on top of previous works. I can’t stand the moral outrage from people who are themselves standing on the shoulders of giants.

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2. bgwalter ◴[] No.45075233[source]
You can get pretty far with just K&R and in isolation if you write algorithmic code. Or with just APUE in isolation.

LLMs cannot, they need vast bodies of stolen text to become remotely useful. For all activities, humans need less training material than the laundromats.

Aside from that, there are legal, philosophical and economic arguments that machines are not the same as humans and do not deserve the same rights. 99.99% of the world population outside of SV hype circles would agree with that.

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3. LtWorf ◴[] No.45078263[source]
Humans don't need to read all of the existing code to produce new code. In fact humans invented code into existance.
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4. brookst ◴[] No.45094798[source]
How many human developers have never learned from other peoples’ code?

And let’s at least make up better stats. No way even 50% of the population understands and thinks about the issues. I’d say it’s probably 11.5184% actually.

5. brookst ◴[] No.45094804[source]
Clever shift of “humans” meaning individuals in the first sentence, and the category in the second.

Today’s humans who write code positively learned from reading other peoples’ code.