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1. roscas ◴[] No.45074436[source]
Meanwhile in Europe, dump politics do nothing to stop USA and PRC spy.

The ban for anti-social networks to less 16yo is a good start but it does not fix the smartphone or telecommunication spy.

The need to ban twitter, tiktok, facebook and many others is a must.

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2. bilbo0s ◴[] No.45075563[source]
Hey, do what you have to do.

We will.

Can't speak for every American, but I won't take offense. It's our job to protect our infrastructure, corporations and data. Not at all the responsibility of Europe, India or China. It's your job to protect yours.

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3. ronsor ◴[] No.45075575[source]
Don't think that'll stop the NSA/CIA or CCP hackers much.
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4. roscas ◴[] No.45075840[source]
It does not stop, that is correct. But it is a first important step to start breaking some bad ones.
5. impossiblefork ◴[] No.45077314[source]
This is one of the most humiliating aspects of living here:

That the government is unwilling to genuinely protect its own interests, for example, by preventing ordinary people's data from leaking abroad or ensuring real internet privacy, because without these things we are so unbelievably vulnerable, not just to influence operations designed with this data, but they'll know literally the whole economic structure of the EU, how many people work where, where a particular person works, etc.

They're not even preventing foreign countries from getting access to bank transactions.

When they're denied they cry terrorism, but reality is that if you have this knowledge you can say 'Oh, impossibleFork just moved to X, and he's an expert in Y, he's probably doing Z and W. Let's hire some guys to try the exact same thing, so that it'll be a business here instead of there'.

I don't understand how a government can expect the country it governs to have an economy when it allows this kind of data leakage.

6. backscratches ◴[] No.45084801[source]
This hack was an example of the USA giving a backdoor to China. I wish Europe would help the US.