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iamcreasy ◴[] No.45067211[source]
It was interesting to hear that Laravel, Drupal, Wordpress and Symfony communities do not mesh. I wonder why.
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pbowyer ◴[] No.45073392[source]
The Laravel and Symfony communities are culturally very different. Laravel (and Taylor) are very US-American, Symfony (and Fabien) very European, and it comes through in communication style and presentation. Laravel has a share of users building products to sell to other Laravel users; Symfony doesn't. If I caricature, Laravel users are better at making money (as a Symfony user the social media presence looks like "grifting"); Symfony users at being architecture astronauts (and looking down on people "getting things done").

At a high level the WordPress community doesn't mesh because of having the WordPress way of doing things, and having a history of writing for old versions of PHP years after others have moved on and told users to upgrade. The WordPress community is fragmented into separate sub-communities which again don't mesh. There's the users who only build sites with page builders and hardly know how to code, those whose goal is to sell copies of their paid plugin (or hosting services), and those with permission to make changes to WordPress itself.

I've no recent experience of Drupal so can't comment on them.

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1. flakeoil ◴[] No.45073837[source]
Laravel builds on Symfony so it is in some way natural that more real products/applications are released based on Laravel than on pure Symfony. Laravel has more functions built in and more practical packages for real use cases. Developing a similar app based on Symfony would require much more work.
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2. jonwinstanley ◴[] No.45075652[source]
Laravel is more like Rails in that sense, if you’re building a regular app, Laravel is very very fast to get something finished