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troad ◴[] No.45062852[source]
You can opt out, but the fact that it's opt-in by default and made to look like a simple T/C update prompt leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The five year retention period seems... excessive. I wonder if they've buried anything else objectionable in the new terms.

It was the kick in the pants I needed to cancel my subscription.

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JohnnyMarcone ◴[] No.45062930[source]
I got a pop-up when I opened the app explaining the change and an option to opt out. That seems very transparent to me.
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elashri ◴[] No.45063111[source]
> That seems very transparent to me

Implicit consent is not transparent and should be illegal in all situations. I can't tell you that unless you opt out, You have agreed to let me rent you apartment.

You can say analogy is not straightforward comparable but the overall idea is the same. If we enter a contract for me to fix your broken windows, I cannot extend it to do anything else in the house I see fit with Implicit consent.

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1. handoflixue ◴[] No.45073380{3}[source]
How is it "implicit" to click "I agree" to a large pop-up that takes up most of the screen?
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2. danaris ◴[] No.45074293[source]
Courts in various jurisdictions have found clickwrap agreements to be generally only valid for what one would expect to be common provisions within such agreements.

Essentially, because they are presented in a form that is so easy to bypass and so very common in our modern online life, provisions that give up too much to the service provider or would be too unusual or unexpected to find in such an agreement are unenforceable.