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Aurornis ◴[] No.45069549[source]
> They also got me reported to HR by the manager of the XROS effort for supposedly making his team members feel bad

I've only seen John Carmack's public interactions, but they've all been professional and kind.

It's depressing to imagine HR getting involved because someone's feelings had been hurt by an objective discussion from a person like John Carmack.

I'm having flashbacks to the times in my career when coworkers tried to weaponize HR to push their agenda. Every effort was eventually dismissed by HR, but there is a chilling effect on everyone when you realize that someone at the company is trying to put your job at stake because they didn't like something you said. The next time around, the people targeted are much more hesitant to speak up.

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lokar ◴[] No.45070216[source]
I saw the same thing at Google. A distinguished engineer tried gently at first to get a Jr engineer to stop trying to do something that was a bad idea. They persisted so he told them very bluntly to stop. HR got involved.

I even found myself letting really bad things go by because it was just going to take way to much of my time to spoon feed people and get them to stop.

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LPisGood ◴[] No.45072275[source]
What kind of thing is bad enough that it warrants multiple discussions without the junior engineer getting the hint that it’s a bad idea?
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1. knorker ◴[] No.45072742{3}[source]
A junior engineer can make an API that can basically live forever as tech debt.

(Especially if it's an "API" persisted to disk)