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520 points OlympicMarmoto | 1 comments | 29 Aug 25 16:45 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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agsnu ◴[29 Aug 25 19:11 UTC] No.45068169[source]▶
Huawei seem pretty committed to building their own OS and uncoupling from the Western technology stack in total

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT https://www.usenix.org/conference/osdi24/presentation/chen-h...

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ronsor ◴[29 Aug 25 20:55 UTC] No.45069290[source]▶
The only reason Chinese companies can even get away with these big projects is because of state backing and state objectives. By itself, the market doesn't support a new general-purpose OS at this point.
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betaby ◴[29 Aug 25 21:06 UTC] No.45069377[source]▶
> because of state backing and state objectives

MS is a state backed company. Very natural that China went the same path.

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howdyhowdy123 ◴[29 Aug 25 21:38 UTC] No.45069698[source]▶
No it isn't
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SgtBastard ◴[29 Aug 25 21:54 UTC] No.45069866[source]▶
Technically you are correct but the commenter you’re responding to means that with the amount of Western Governments spend on MS products and services, the are a d facto (if not de jure) state backed enterprise.
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os2warpman ◴[30 Aug 25 01:26 UTC] No.45071136[source]▶
US government spending is (for now) easy to track, and you can get totals for spending by corporate entity.

In total across the entire US federal government, $518.8 million was paid to Microsoft for products and services in 2024. That is approximately 0.21% of their total annual revenue.

I assert that the threshold for "state sponsored" is well in excess of 0.21% of annual revenue.

Federal Spending: https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/dd77b7c3-663e-cb91-229...

Microsoft Annual Revenue: https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar24/index.html

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1. monkeyelite ◴[30 Aug 25 06:20 UTC] No.45072336{4}[source]▶
If you look at Ford and Intel you would find similar numbers - but they are clearly quasi state entities.