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some_guy_nobel[dead post] ◴[] No.45059507[source]
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primitivesuave ◴[] No.45059597[source]
Just to stymy the spread of misinformation - this is in reference to an interview from 2019 or 2020, where he said he would prioritize women/minorities for mentorship. While I personally don't agree with that notion (IMO mentorship should go to the most qualified person, regardless of race/background), I definitely didn't hear it as a refusal to help white men.
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some_guy_nobel[dead post] ◴[] No.45060576[source]
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lumpa ◴[] No.45062056[source]
It is misinformation because it elides the context: white guys got virtually all the mentoring already, represented the absolute majority of core developers, held all the power in steering the language, etc.

So what he's saying is: my personal efforts focus on helping those that currently don't get help, don't have a voice. White man are doing fine already, they can forget getting direct help from me because they, as a group, don't need it.

So yeah, you can be upset that he's not offering to help those who, as a group, already have a path to getting into Python. Says a lot more about you though.

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some_guy_nobel ◴[] No.45066344[source]
So, it's okay for someone to say, "I won't help <race> <gender>, they can forget it", as long as <race>="white" and <gender>="male"?

And how do you define mentoring? Clubs? Participation in class?

Is an Italian man's participation in an open-source project equal to an American's? A Russian's? Why, because they're 'white'?

Should a Swedish man then be barred from help?

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1. primitivesuave ◴[] No.45072230[source]
Anyone's time is their own to decide how to spend it.

You seem to be trying to portray some kind of malicious intent by someone who in real life is a very nice and humble guy.

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2. some_guy_nobel ◴[] No.45090493[source]
I'm literally reposting exactly what he said - how else should it be interpreted?