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The web does not need gatekeepers: Cloudflare’s new “signed agents” pitch

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454 points positiveblue | 1 comments | 29 Aug 25 16:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.204s | source
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impure ◴[29 Aug 25 16:55 UTC] No.45066528[source]▶
Well, if you have a better way to solve this that’s open I’m all ears. But what Cloudflare is doing is solving the real problem of AI bots. We’ve tried to solve this problem with IP blocking and user agents, but they do not work. And this is actually how other similar problems have been solved. Certificate authorities aren’t open and yet they work just fine. Attestation providers are also not open and they work just fine.
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viktorcode ◴[29 Aug 25 17:24 UTC] No.45066914[source]▶
AI poisoning is a better protection. Cloudflare is capable of serving stashes of bad data to AI bots as protective barrier to their clients.
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esseph ◴[29 Aug 25 17:30 UTC] No.45066992[source]▶
AI poisoning is going to get a lot of people killed, be cause the AI won't stop being used.
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1. culi ◴[30 Aug 25 03:53 UTC] No.45071786[source]▶
The current state of the art in AI poisoning is Nightshade from the University of Chicago. It's meant to eventually be an addon to their WebGlaze[1] which is an invite-only tool meant for artists to protect their art from AI mimicry

Nobody is dying because artists are protecting their art

[0] https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

[1] https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/webglaze.html