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Hermes 4

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202 points sibellavia | 7 comments | 27 Aug 25 08:58 UTC | HN request time: 0.601s | source | bottom

Technical report: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2508.18255

1. muragekibicho ◴[30 Aug 25 01:44 UTC] No.45071217[source]▶

>>45037064 (OP) #

Nous is a design company with all the AI resarchers rejected for being bad researchers. That's a hill I'll die on.

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2. Nuzzerino ◴[30 Aug 25 03:31 UTC] No.45071689[source]▶

>>45071217 (TP) #

That's not necessarily a bad thing.

3. hopelite ◴[30 Aug 25 03:46 UTC] No.45071752[source]▶

>>45071217 (TP) #

Can you please clarify some things:

* Rejected by whom?

* By what definition of bad?

* You’ll die on a hill for what reason?

4. baobabKoodaa ◴[30 Aug 25 12:49 UTC] No.45074188[source]▶

>>45071217 (TP) #

I thought it's really just one guy who does the Nous aesthetic?

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5. NitpickLawyer ◴[30 Aug 25 14:51 UTC] No.45075152[source]▶

>>45071217 (TP) #

> with all the AI resarchers rejected for being bad researchers.

TBF, I've heard the team at xai called "bunch of amateurs" by people who've previously worked (with them) at big labs. For a bunch of amateurs, they've caught up with SotA just fine.

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6. whywhywhywhy ◴[30 Aug 25 18:41 UTC] No.45076987[source]▶

Doing a good job if people think it’s a whole team

7. transcriptase ◴[30 Aug 25 19:04 UTC] No.45077155[source]▶

Turns out a bunch of amateurs will outperform experts when the experts are forced to spend 80% of their effort ensuring their models don’t accidentally say factual yet impolite things or make any users have big feelings.