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520 points OlympicMarmoto | 1 comments | 29 Aug 25 16:45 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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agsnu ◴[29 Aug 25 19:11 UTC] No.45068169[source]▶
Huawei seem pretty committed to building their own OS and uncoupling from the Western technology stack in total

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT https://www.usenix.org/conference/osdi24/presentation/chen-h...

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ronsor ◴[29 Aug 25 20:55 UTC] No.45069290[source]▶
The only reason Chinese companies can even get away with these big projects is because of state backing and state objectives. By itself, the market doesn't support a new general-purpose OS at this point.
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betaby ◴[29 Aug 25 21:06 UTC] No.45069377[source]▶
> because of state backing and state objectives

MS is a state backed company. Very natural that China went the same path.

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howdyhowdy123 ◴[29 Aug 25 21:38 UTC] No.45069698[source]▶
No it isn't
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1. treyd ◴[30 Aug 25 00:23 UTC] No.45070846[source]▶
MS has deep ties into the state department and intelligence apparatus that few other companies do. Just as deep as the defense contractors who have a near monopoly-monopsony relationship with the federal government. You can argue about how exclusive they are in particular qualities but the scale and depth they operate at makes their relationship approximate the relationship Huawei does with the Chinese government. They're just what state-backed enterprises look like under liberal-ish capitalism.