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disposition2 ◴[] No.45065149[source]
This will probably be a unpopular, wet blanket opinion...

But anytime I hear of Grok or xAI, the only thing I can think about is how it's hoovering up water from the Memphis municipal water supply and running natural gas turbines to power all for a chat bot.

Looks like they are bringing even more natural gas turbines online...great!

https://netswire.usatoday.com/story/money/business/developme...

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d0gsg0w00f ◴[] No.45065224[source]
Where does OpenAI and Anthropic get their water?
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tzs ◴[] No.45067479[source]
It's not the water that is the big problem here. It is the gas turbines and the location.

They started operating the turbines without permits and they were not equipped with the pollution controls normally required under federal rules. Worse, they are in an area that already led the state in people having to get emergency treatment for breathing problems. In their first 11 months they became one of the largest polluters in an area already noted for high pollution.

They have since got a permit, and said that pollution controls will be added, but some outside monitors have found evidence that they are running more turbines than the permit allows.

Oh, and of course 90% of the people bearing the brunt of all this local pollution are poor and Black.

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Geee ◴[] No.45069557[source]
Isn't the pollution exaggerated? Burning natural gas or methane is considered pretty clean, and produces mostly CO2 and water, which aren't toxic pollutants or a cause of breathing problems. That's why it's used inside homes in gas stoves.
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1. minitech ◴[] No.45070343[source]
Not sure about the answer to the original motivating point, but as a tangent, gas stoves in homes do cause breathing problems (because of non-CO2/water products). Top couple of search results:

- https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-health-risks-...

- https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/gas-stoves-air-pollution-1.6...