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Shakahs ◴[29 Aug 25 19:59 UTC] No.45068700[source]▶
Grok are the first models I am boycotting on purely environmental grounds. They built their datacenter without sufficient local power supply and have been illegally powering it with unpermitted gas turbine generators until that capacity gets built, to the significant detriment of the local population.

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/elon-musk-xai-gas...

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rikafurude21 ◴[29 Aug 25 21:53 UTC] No.45069856[source]▶
If thats the yard stick you should boycott everything coming out of china, which is pretty much everything, since they are one of the largest polluters globally.
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1. zzzoom ◴[29 Aug 25 22:32 UTC] No.45070161[source]▶
Not even close

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

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2. maleldil ◴[29 Aug 25 22:49 UTC] No.45070283[source]▶
That's per-capita. China is by far the biggest polluter overall, and it is still increasing.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?country=CHN~USA~IND...

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3. argsnd ◴[29 Aug 25 22:52 UTC] No.45070298[source]▶
Doesn't really make sense in my opinion. Why boycott a specific group of people for their collective emissions when their individual emissions are lower than many others? The latter is the important metric, else you're simply punishing them for having a large population.
4. didibus ◴[29 Aug 25 22:55 UTC] No.45070331[source]▶
Wouldn't you expect the country with the most manufacturing and one of the biggest population to also have the biggest pollution?

I feel you'd need to adjust the sum total by something, capita, or square footage or be more specific like does a manufacturing X in China pollute more than an equivalent one in the US, etc.

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5. briHass ◴[29 Aug 25 23:29 UTC] No.45070556{3}[source]▶
How about adjusted for GDP, which would measure efficiency of carbon use in output: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_in...

China is still about double the US, and the US is lower than Canada.

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6. didibus ◴[29 Aug 25 23:52 UTC] No.45070694{4}[source]▶
Hum... GDP doesn't seem right to me.

Not all goods and services involve the same process, some come with more pollution.

For example, Nvidia will contribute to a big chunk of US GDP, but it only designs the chips, which won't have the same pollution impact as the country in which they'll have it manufactured.

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7. drstewart ◴[30 Aug 25 06:58 UTC] No.45072498{5}[source]▶
Hum... I bet anything that criticizes China over the US won't seem right to you
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8. didibus ◴[30 Aug 25 15:59 UTC] No.45075704{6}[source]▶
Not at all, but it just feels like the emperor's new clothes if we just pretend we're doing better and aren't objective.