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Shakahs ◴[29 Aug 25 19:59 UTC] No.45068700[source]▶
Grok are the first models I am boycotting on purely environmental grounds. They built their datacenter without sufficient local power supply and have been illegally powering it with unpermitted gas turbine generators until that capacity gets built, to the significant detriment of the local population.

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/elon-musk-xai-gas...

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mrcwinn ◴[29 Aug 25 21:04 UTC] No.45069367[source]▶
By his own words, Elon is not an environmentalist and doesn’t seem to believe much in humanity’s impact on the climate. His concern is with the futility of relying on a non-renewable resource. He believes there is significantly more lithium than there is oil, I guess.

In the end, incentives are all that matter. Do hotels care deeply about the environment, or are they interested in saving in energy and labor costs as your towel is cleaned? Does it matter? Does moralizing really get us anywhere if our ends are the same?

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behnamoh ◴[29 Aug 25 21:45 UTC] No.45069761[source]▶
oh the irony... EV company CEO doesn't care about env...
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1. recursive ◴[29 Aug 25 22:28 UTC] No.45070114[source]▶
That's just one facet of EVs that is severely overplayed in my book. They have plenty of other benefits, but for some of us the environmental aspect is a "nice-to-have".
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2. panopticon ◴[29 Aug 25 22:59 UTC] No.45070363[source]▶
Agreed. Convenience, maintenance, and operating costs were all top of mind when we bought an EV. Environmentalism was hardly a consideration.
3. teachrdan ◴[29 Aug 25 23:03 UTC] No.45070391[source]▶
> They have plenty of other benefits

I'm inclined to say the exact opposite about EVs. They take up as much space as internal combustion engine vehicles (in terms of streets, highways and parking lots), are just as fatal to pedestrians, make cities and neighborhoods less livable, cost in the tens of thousands of dollars, create traffic jams... the primary benefit is reducing our dependence on fossil fuels and generating less CO2. That's the number one differentiator. Faster acceleration, etc. is a nice-to-have.

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4. behnamoh ◴[29 Aug 25 23:10 UTC] No.45070441[source]▶
> the primary benefit is reducing our dependence on fossil fuels and generating less CO2

for many, it's not even that. I like EVs primarily because I'm a tech-savvy person and like computers on wheels. but I'm also aware of their numerous downsides.

5. recursive ◴[29 Aug 25 23:59 UTC] No.45070737[source]▶
No oil changes and no gas stations. Those are the key features to me.

Agree that the rocket-ship acceleration is just nice to have also.

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