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NitpickLawyer ◴[] No.45066063[source]
Tested this yesterday with Cline. It's fast, works well with agentic flows, and produces decent code. No idea why this thread is so negative (also got flagged while I was typing this?) but it's a decent model. I'd say it's at or above gpt5-mini level, which is awesome in my book (I've been maining gpt5-mini for a few weeks now, does the job on a budget).

Things I noted:

- It's fast. I tested it in EU tz, so ymmv

- It does agentic in an interesting way. Instead of editing a file whole or in many places, it does many small passes.

- Had a feature take ~110k tokens (parsing html w/ bs4). Still finished the task. Didn't notice any problems at high context.

- When things didn't work first try, it created a new file to test, did all the mocking / testing there, and then once it worked edited the main module file. Nice. GPT5-mini would often times edit working files, and then get confused and fail the task.

All in all, not bad. At the price point it's at, I could see it as a daily driver. Even agentic stuff w/ opus + gpt5 high as planners and this thing as an implementer. It's fast enough that it might be worth setting it up in parallel and basically replicate pass@x from research.

IMO it's good to have options at every level. Having many providers fight for the market is good, it keeps them on their toes, and brings prices down. GPT5-mini is at 2$/MTok, this is at 1.5$/MTok. This is basically "free", in the great scheme of things. I ndon't get the negativity.

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dlachausse ◴[] No.45066728[source]
> No idea why this thread is so negative (also got flagged while I was typing this?)

Grok is owned by Elon Musk. Anything positive that is even tangentially related to him will be treated negatively by certain people here. Additionally, it is an AI coding tool which is seen as a threat to some people’s livelihoods here. It’s a double whammy, so I’m not surprised by the reaction to it at all.

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fortyseven[dead post] ◴[] No.45067004[source]
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cebert ◴[] No.45067681[source]
What “serious damage” do you believe Elon did?
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jameshart ◴[] No.45067814[source]
The US seems to no longer have an overseas aid program. The Institute of Peace got shut down. Data protections at the social security administration were breached. https://time.com/7312556/doge-social-security-data-whistlebl...

Oh, and some asshole threw a couple of Nazi salutes at the president’s inauguration.

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dlachausse ◴[] No.45068688[source]
US AID and the Institute of Peace were CIA fronts. Good riddance to them.

https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/cias-secret-grip-on...

Also, watch the "Nazi salutes" clip in its entirety from a non-biased source. He is excited that Trump won and is awkwardly gesturing while saying "my heart goes out to you" in celebration and thanks to the voters. Even the ADL said it wasn't a Nazi salute.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5097676-elon-mus...

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jameshart ◴[] No.45068761[source]
every part of the US government has been used as a front for clandestine activity. USAID also actually carried out an overseas aid mission.

It hasn’t been replaced with a non-CIA-fronting overseas aid department.

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1. dlachausse ◴[] No.45069445[source]
It carried out just enough of an aid mission to run cover for CIA activities. As an example it nominally supported farmers in Afghanistan, except the "farmers" were opium producers.

USAID was shut down on July 1st. Somehow people have survived without it for nearly 2 months. It just goes to show you how critical the "aid" it provided was.

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2. jameshart ◴[] No.45069590[source]
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S258953702...

Estimated impacts, to be sure, will take time for actual studies. But the activities USAID was responsible for were far more than just ‘the bare minimum’ to provide cover.