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NitpickLawyer ◴[] No.45066063[source]
Tested this yesterday with Cline. It's fast, works well with agentic flows, and produces decent code. No idea why this thread is so negative (also got flagged while I was typing this?) but it's a decent model. I'd say it's at or above gpt5-mini level, which is awesome in my book (I've been maining gpt5-mini for a few weeks now, does the job on a budget).

Things I noted:

- It's fast. I tested it in EU tz, so ymmv

- It does agentic in an interesting way. Instead of editing a file whole or in many places, it does many small passes.

- Had a feature take ~110k tokens (parsing html w/ bs4). Still finished the task. Didn't notice any problems at high context.

- When things didn't work first try, it created a new file to test, did all the mocking / testing there, and then once it worked edited the main module file. Nice. GPT5-mini would often times edit working files, and then get confused and fail the task.

All in all, not bad. At the price point it's at, I could see it as a daily driver. Even agentic stuff w/ opus + gpt5 high as planners and this thing as an implementer. It's fast enough that it might be worth setting it up in parallel and basically replicate pass@x from research.

IMO it's good to have options at every level. Having many providers fight for the market is good, it keeps them on their toes, and brings prices down. GPT5-mini is at 2$/MTok, this is at 1.5$/MTok. This is basically "free", in the great scheme of things. I ndon't get the negativity.

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1. infecto ◴[] No.45067936[source]
Similar thoughts. I have been using this model and find it pretty good and extremely fast.

HN comments love to beat up Elon Musk and unfortunately a lot of biased negative reactions to LLMs where everything will get insta downvoted.

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2. infecto ◴[] No.45068107[source]
To add, if the costs in Cursor are accurate, it’s highly competitive.
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3. jjangkke ◴[] No.45068546[source]
Do you find it more or less matching what Sonnet 4 does?

Grok fast is enticing due to its cheap cost

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4. infecto ◴[] No.45068711[source]
Anecdotally it’s coming under sonnet 4 for me but much quicker and if I understand the costs correctly, vastly cheaper. No idea if it’s subsidized or not but I am going to keep playing around with it. My example is it is definitely writing the code I want but with more quirks than sonnet. I only do things in chunks though.
5. tough ◴[] No.45071132[source]
Its free 0x during launch week
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6. infecto ◴[] No.45071323{3}[source]
Sure but like every other time this has happened, they show you the cost of the usage if it was not free. Hence my saying if that is correct, which it looks to be, it’s cost efficient.

Cursor shows you a breakdown of model and costs, even for models being offered for free.

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7. infecto ◴[] No.45075579[source]
Not surprised but also have no interest in childlike dialogues like yours.
8. bityard ◴[] No.45076807[source]
I never liked Musk because he always came off to me as your average eccentric bullshit billionaire. But up until his more blatant alignment with conservatives, he was quite widely revered by the left for his promotion and investments in transportation technology, renewable energy, and commercial space endeavors. Funny how things have changed.
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9. bamboozled ◴[] No.45077090{3}[source]
It’s not that, he marketed himself as a science believing climate vigilante billionaire who would rescue humanity. Then he just went mask off. What that has to do with “the left” is because many people in the left believe in climate science so we’re happy to accept the help…weird right ?
10. tough ◴[] No.45077965{4}[source]
oh i didnt knew that TIL thank you!