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454 points positiveblue | 1 comments | 29 Aug 25 16:35 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source

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jjangkke ◴[29 Aug 25 16:48 UTC] No.45066437[source]▶

I would love to get off Cloudflare but there are no real good alternatives

bob1029 ◴[29 Aug 25 16:58 UTC] No.45066577[source]▶

Writing backends that can actually handle public traffic and using authentication for expensive resources are fantastic alternatives.

Also, cheaply rate limiting malicious web clients should be something that is trivial to accomplish with competent web tooling (i.e., on your own servers). If this seems out of scope or infeasible, you might be using the wrong tools for the job.

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1. acdha ◴[29 Aug 25 18:47 UTC] No.45067908[source]▶

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This sounds pretty unrealistic: the web is not better off if the only people who can host content are locking it behind authentication and/or have significant infrastructure budgets and the ability to create heavily tuned static stacks.

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